I had heard so many great things about Urban Decay liquid liner in the old packaging, but the only one I could I find at Sephora was this:
It is definitely nice and black, but the brush is way too fat (like a nail polish brush)! I like to add that delicate retro wing, so I have to use a different brush,which is kind of annoying. I will probably just go back to my Rimmel, which has just-satisfactory formula, but a nice, thin paintbrush - unless anybody else here has other recommendations for liquid liner with a thin brush tip?
Meanwhile, for cream liners, I find Clinique "true black" to be one of their better products I have tried - defintely a nice, lasting, deep black, at a decent price.
I LOVE Urban Decay's liquid liner in "soot." It is the only liquid liner I have ever liked. My lashes are light black, so anything that isn't really pigmented looks sort of gray and blah on me. This one is really dark black with a slight shine, and the tip is super easy to control. They changed their packaging recently and gave the colors new names, so I'm not sure if they've changed the formula. I hope not!!!