I bought both bags in March and the leather has soften up with use but last week I conditioned both bags with the Bally conditioner which made them softer but the really big difference made the apple garde which I used today and massaged the bags with it. It's unbelievable they look and feel like the old leather much thicker and softer, all veins disappeared and there wasn't any discoloration. I didn't use the spray yet because I'm a bit scared but probably will do later today. So here are the pics when I bought them and they were brand new and unworn and the pics from today. I just love them even more and want to sleep on them because they are so soft and squishy
1. cornflower first before and after
2. ink city before and after


1. cornflower first before and after
2. ink city before and after