Hi, all! I applied Pre treatment cream and For Handles Only on my Rouge Vif recently. Here are some before and after pics all taken without flash. The 1st one is close up before treatment and the 2nd in close up post. The 3rd and 4th are pre and post(in that order) in front of the window. 5th and 6th are pre treatment. The last 2 are post treatment. I did not notice any change at all after the 1st coat of Pre Treatment dried, but after the 2nd coat dried(I let it dry overnight), I noticed that the subtle veining disappeared and the finish became more matte. The bag is very very very soft and slouchy now. Also, the bag is stuffed in the post treatment pics and empty in the pre treatment shots.