^^^ Tiree - the black one is a gunmetal! Just relooked at the photos and it does look black but it is a lovely gunmetal i.e. the one in my signature.
Dont apologise silly ! The photos did look dark..Sorry Rascal:shame:, I can see my mistake now, it's really gorgeous. They had a gunmetal one too, maybe i should have went for that one.....too many choices.
Not sure how the Outlet Ledbury's work. Regarding special purchases - I've seen soft grain Choc with strap and soft grain Red without.internal strap? do you mean to compact the bag like on the e/w? If i remember the red one was a bit cheaper too as it;s an outlet special.