ARCHIVE 6-01-13 Authenticate this Hermes **BAG**

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This thread is for discussion on authenticity of Hermes Bags.

Rules for posting in this thread:

  • This is a free service. Our authenticators are volunteers providing their opinions, and who desire to keep counterfeiters and dishonest sellers from profiting from their trade, and to help buyers find authentic items.
  • Authenticators are not required to answer all posts and, for various reasons, some may not be answered.

Reasons why some requests may not be answered:
  • It is the preference of the authenticators on this thread not to give authentication to members who buy and resell bags.
  • It is also the preference of the authenticators to comment on current, not closed, auctions and sales.
  • Authenticators prefer to give authentication to members who post in a range of threads, instead of just requesting free authentication for designer items.
  • We will not authenticate for those who post photos only and cannot provide link to a live online auction/sale.
  • If your request is not answered here, for whatever reasons, professional authentication services are available outside of PF.

Steps to take before you request:

1. SEARCH.
Someone may have asked about this bag already.

Search the Hermes Forum from our main Hermes Forum page using the search box at the top far right of the screen that says “search this Forum” . Select the option “posts” and type the name of the seller.
OR
If the bag has been asked about and you want to search for it later, highlight the name of the seller and an icon with a magnifying glass is shown. Click and you will see results for the seller in all tPF Forums.

2. FORMAT.We use a format because it helps keep track of the bags. If you do not follow format your post may not be answered.

Format for auctions found on eBay or other auction sites:
Item: (Copy from listing)
Listing number: (Copy from Listing)
Seller: (Copy from listing)
Link: (Copy from listing)
Comments if any: Put any special comments you have here.

Format for sales from sites of professional sellers:
Item: (Copy from Sellers site)
Listing number is applicable: (Copy from Sellers site)
Seller: (name of the seller, eg. Malleries)
Link: (Copy from Sellers site)
Comments if any: Special comments here

Format for private sales - PLEASE NOTE WE WILL NOT AUTHENTICATE THESE WITHOUT A VALID ONLINE LINK TO A SALE OF SOME KIND; PICTURES ONLY ARE NOT SUFFICIENT.

PICTURES: All these pictures are required for all authentications.

Essential views for authenticating Hermes bags on the PF.

- Front view of bag
- Back view of bag
- View of bottom of Bag
- Zipper & its end
- Hardware
- Craftsman stamp
- Hermes stamp + Top stitching
- Clear picture of the interior lining
- Base of the handles
- Side view of the strap guides
- Lock and key set, including numbers on keys and at the base of the lock

Pictures should be clear, taken straight on, not an an angle, in good light and with the macro function of the camera.

If the pictures are inadequate, authenticators may skip your request. For more information on how to post photos. visit this thread:
Posting Photos

OTHER NEXT STEPS BEFORE YOU MAKE A REQUEST:
Zero Feedback: Authenticators will always tell you to avoid a seller with no feedback. Do not bother asking.
Check Feedback: Check the seller's feedback. Have they built up a quick bunch of positives for unrelated, perhaps inexpensive items? Have they sold Hermes or luxury goods before?
Price: Is the price very very low compared to what the item should sell for? No one is going to sell an authentic item that should go for thousands for a few hundred (dollars, pounds, etc.). If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
Pictures: Are pictures blurry, taken from very far away or do they obscure details? A good seller will do whatever it takes to provide good, clear photos and solid information to prospective buyers.

OTHER THINGS TO DO:
3. Do a search here and on Google for the seller name. Often, you will find other things they have sold and other feedback that helps provide a fuller picture of the seller.

4. Take a good look at any feedback for luxury goods - unfortunately, shill bidding does take place on Ebay (meaning that sellers have friends bid on things for them and even buy them to create a false positive selling picture or increase price).

5. Use sites like http://www.toolhaus.org to see what negative feedback may have been left for a seller in the past (and what negatives they have left)
6. Check their prior sales on Ebay - often, the same bag turns up again and again, making it less likely to be authentic.


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  • Always be respectful when you post and treat others as you expect to be treated. This is an open thread and everyone is welcome to participate.
  • Please allow at least twelve hours before you repost your request. If the auction is ending soon, you may say so in your comments. Remember, we are just like you, and get on the PF when we have time, so please be patient.
  • Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication.
  • If you wish to reasearch a particular seller, please do it here.
  • Please refer to our reference section for general questions about Hermes. Finally, do not submit requests for something that is obviously a fake, e.g. the item says it is a replica, or a $200 Birkin.
AN IMPORTANT WORD ON FEEDBACK
Take a moment to read Authenticator Perigord's great post on feedback.
Remember!!!A seller with Zero (0) or low feedback is a RED FLAG :sos:

Reminder Avoid Drama! This thread should be ON TOPIC at all times. After multiple warnings to stay on topic/avoid drama, you may be removed.


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Why is this not being removed by eBay if it was identified as fake? It is crazy to see someone pay this money for a fake!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16073093521...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1161
(below are the postings from the closed down thread)
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Originally Posted by ilovechamomile
Hi,

Can you please kindly authenticate this bag for me?
Item:Hermes Birkin 35cm Mykonos Togo Leather
Listing number: 160730935212
Seller: olympevie
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/160730935212...84.m1438.l2649
Thanks
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The detail shots show aspects of concern, I do not believe this is authentic.

The seller has zero feedback and if you had searched you would have found that another bag they had for sale was also thought counterfeit.

It's just not worth bothering in this kind of situation.
 
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Listing: Auth Hermes Beige couchevel Kelly 32 cm GoldHW shoulder bag handbag purse#2814
Listing #: 220951395275
Seller: mimaction
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-Hermes...275?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3371babbcb
Comments: I'm an H newbie hoping to score my 1st H bag. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for your time! :hugs:

Authentic Kelly, the Hermes name for this color of Courchevel leather is in fact, Gold.

If you are new to Hermes I suggest you search the seller as a normal due diligence matter.
 
Listing: Auth Hermes Beige couchevel Kelly 32 cm GoldHW shoulder bag handbag purse#2814
Listing #: 220951395275
Seller: mimaction
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-Hermes...275?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3371babbcb
Comments: I'm an H newbie hoping to score my 1st H bag. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for your time! :hugs:

Also authentic, yes, also Gold in color.

Price differences in the two bags will be due to this sellers own evaluation of their respective condition.
 
Last one!

Listing: Auth HERMES Ardennes Kelly 32 Rouge Garance Handbag
Listing #: 260953810811
Seller: Brandoff
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-HERMES...811?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cc20f277b
Comments: Newbie Q: Is it possible to repair/retouch the corners on this leather?

Thanks so much for your expertise! :hugs: I hope I score my 1st H bag soon.

Authentic, not easy to recondition this leather if it is worn down, perhaps Hermes can re color the corners successfully but I am not sure.

Iit is not Rouge Garance, this color came later than 1998, the year of this bag, more likely Rouge Vif. I have a bag in this leather and color and year and it looks the same.
 
Item: Hermes Birkin togo 30 $7500
Seller: Local Seller- friend of friend
Bag History: Purchased at Hermes locally- no receipts or docs.
Pictures: The ones they could provide are included. If there are no red flags I will ask for additional ones.
Comments: Any thoughts/comments would be greatly appreciated as this is my first Birkin purchase. Thank you very much in advance.
 

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Item: Hermes Birkin togo 30 $7500
Seller: Local Seller- friend of friend
Bag History: Purchased at Hermes locally- no receipts or docs.
Pictures: The ones they could provide are included. If there are no red flags I will ask for additional ones.
Comments: Any thoughts/comments would be greatly appreciated as this is my first Birkin purchase. Thank you very much in advance.

I am sorry, but based on your posted pictures it is my belief that the bag shown is not authentic.
 
It´s always so very sad to read about the "friend of a friend". If that is indeed the truth, it breaks my heart. What kind of friends do that?

Sorry to be OT!!!
 
Hello Tpfers,

Item: Picotin Tosca
Listing number is applicable: N/A
Seller: Malleries
Link: http://www.malleries.com/authentic-...rillon-clemence-palladium-i-59010-s-2646.html

Comments if any: I know that Malleries is a popular reseller but would like to make sure. I have asked the seller and been given the measurement 22cm x 22cm x 18cm. Would also like to confirm this is the MM size? The other thing is about the colour tosca, I have seen a real tosca picotin, somehow this color looks tad diferent, maybe because of the camera or lighting? Thanks for your opinion.
 
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