I've read a lot about these 2 products when caring for the vachetta in the forum and mypoupette and personally, I am veeeery anal about bringing them out when it rains unless they've already turned a full patina but I really want to keep the vachetta going longer than usual. Can anyone tell me which is actually better? Apple Garde or Monkeyshine and which products should I buy? Apple Garde isn't available in Singapore(But I can get it shipped from Leatherstuff.com ) and I'm still searching for Monkey Shine at the local hardware stores. I read livinluxuriously's site about the Apple Garde but also saw Yeux's apple garde panic, any advise is much appreciated!