^^ Now I am very confused.....what is shining monkey??? I have never seen that mentioned on here til now! The Ali Support Group uses apple conditioner, right?????!!!!! I bought apple conditioner for my white Ali when I bought her a while back, but wasnt sure about conditioning my new Whiskey Ali because of the care card and nature of this leather.....did the Apple conditioner cause my denim transfer on my white Ali...maybe I should have been using this shining monkey stuff??? Someone HELP ME!!!! Also, does anyone have pics of their whiskey Ali's AFTER they conditoned them to show me? Thanks!!!