11 months post Double Jaw Surgery and Vline at The Face Dental

xiaole.san

Hello3San
Jul 8, 2019
22
10
Hi, I'm an Asian female with a long face and protruding chin. I have already done braces before surgery and have permanent retainers. I had double jaw surgery at The Face Dental (TFD) on Jan 28th 2020.



A little more background on me.. Naturally, I have a very pointy or protruding chin and long face. I have a bit of gummy smile and my bite is off laterally a bit. I already had braces for a year and half and already removed them for a year before this surgery but I have permanent retainers. So, so far at almost 11 months post op, I don't need to wear braces again after surgery. FYI usually your nose shape will CHANGE depending on how much you move your upper jaw, after two jaw surgery. So, if keep this in mind, you can ask Dr Lee at TFD to do alar cinch to minimize changes on your nose.



Through KakaoTalk, I consulted with multiple clinics (ID, EU, Wonjin, etc) and most suggested two jaw surgery for me. Then when I'm certain of doing two jaw, I decided to go to clinics that specilizes just two jaw. So after online KakaoTalk consultations, I narrowed down and had face-to-face consultations at EU Dental with Dr Kim and TFD with Dr Lee.



EU Dental

EU Dental is very professional and had lots of local patients. They seem to be very well known for their vline as well. I was quoted 16 mil won which already includes 40% discount with consent to full face photos and updates following 3 months, 6 months, and 1 year.



The Face Dental

TFD is a dental clinic and Dr Lee is more personable than professional. I ended up going with Dr Lee as he appears to be ethical and care about safety. I was quoted 15 mil won and later I added under chin lipo for 1 mil won. This is usually because there is sagging under chin after major bone surgery.



On the day of Surgery

The only pain is from needles of IV drops which is very minor. The anesthesiologist then gave me oxygen and started counting for GA. I was out right away. Next thing I know, I woke up with headband on my face and just feeling really really uncomfortable. It was so uncomfortable (no pain) that I regretted doing surgery for like 15 mins? But after 15 mins, it's all smooth ride for me. It keeps getting better everyday. Nurses told me I bled very little and recovered very fast. I was walking already a couple hours after surgery.



Dr Lee cut 3mm off my mid face for my gummy smile. Moved my upper jaw forward 5mm. This should lessen my deep nasobial folds he said. Also he did a bit of rotation as I had facial asymmetry. My chin was pointing more to my right and Dr Lee tried to correct that by moving 4mm to left. He didn't give me exact mm for cutting my chin because he said he'd see how much would be relevant during surgery depending on my new location of jaws. He cut 12mm in total off of both sides of my jaws to even out the steps between the cuts of the jaws.



Recovery

I was hospitalized for 2 days with the 24 hour nurse. The first night, breathing was very difficult as there was still bleeding from the surgery. So I had to call the nurse throughout the night and couldn't sleep well elevated. This is pretty common and I think I was able to sleep better after 1 week.



I saw Dr Lee every other day for oral hygiene, for him to check on my progress and LED deswelling sessions. He recommended drinking lots of water and walking as much as I can for faster recovery.


My mouth was not wired shut but I was not able to open my mouth and on liquid diet, drinking through syringe for maybe 5-7 days. I bought a box of really delicious protein drink from Dr Lee. You can ask them for syringes if you need. I do recover fast so by 7 days I already ate thick soups and cake or bread. By 3-4 weeks, I was already eating everything except really hard food like nuts.



Supplements

I bought a box of protein drinks from TFD. And I also took Mend Cosmetics (which has bromelain and arnica for deswelling) a cup everyday starting 1-2 weeks post op when I could drink from a cup. In addition I took Vitamin C supplement.



Overall, I'm very happy with my results although I wish some small details such as assymetry were more perfect. However, I still think Dr Lee did a great job and won't be going for any revision. My left lower lip and left lower chin is still tingling in a certain area but doesn't bother me. My sister who previously had her wisdom tooth removed somewhere else with GA even had similar sensation! So if she having just teeth removed caused this feeling for months, then me having broken my whole jaw is fine hahah. My swelling completely went away around 3-4-5 months I think. It's been a while so I can't really remember. Everyone in KakaoTalk has been complimenting my post surgery results. ❤

If you have any questions let me know. My Kakao is hello3San for anyone needing any tips.
 

bonbon739

New Member
Dec 28, 2020
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Hi thanks for this, its useful to know! I'm looking at getting two jaw and genioplasty for open bite and long face and also considering The Face Dental. Can I ask if you are from Korea, or did you travel there from a different country? If so, how long was it before you could get on a flight home? Also, on the nose point, did your nose not change at all due the surgery? My nose changing shape is one of my biggest concerns about double jaw surgery so did the alar cinch that prevent it changing at all or is the change just minimal? My final question is a bit stupid, but how exactly did you start the conversation off on kakao with the clinics? i.e did you send photos in the first message or was it more informal?
Thanks!
 

xiaole.san

Hello3San
Jul 8, 2019
22
10
Hey, I don't think you read my post carefully. I wrote in capital letters that your nose will change with your upper jaw movements. Some people don't mind the change but to me it's very significant.

I travelled to Korea from US and due to other surgeries I stayed there for like 1.5 months but if you're only doing DJS then you can stay 3 weeks IMO. Some even only stay 2 weeks.

For The Face Dental, it's best to contact Dr Lee directly through Facebook messenger but other clinics I got the kakao profile from our other kakao group chats where girls share their experiences and pass on info. Some clinics do it informal while others do it formal but the important point is to get information through so it doesn't matter whether you want to say formal or informal. You're the customer after all. You should send photos though otherwise how can they analyze you right?
 

bonbon739

New Member
Dec 28, 2020
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Sorry, I don't think I was very clear with my question about the nose. I was basically wondering if you could provide more detail about how exactly your nose did change now that you are nearly 1 year post op. You said above that usually noses shape changes with DJS and I knew that, but I was wondering how exactly did yours change in the end with the alar cinch? Is it wider, or more upturned, are you happy with it?
Thanks about your answers to the other questions.
 

xiaole.san

Hello3San
Jul 8, 2019
22
10
I didn't get alar cinch because I expected I won't like my nose afterwards and am planning rhinoplasty already. So I went into surgery with plans to do rhinoplasty afterwards.

My upper jaw got shortened and pushed forward so my nose is upturned and nostrils got flared up. My nostrils are much bigger and wider now that I'll definitely need alarplasty. If your upper jaw is moved back then your nose won't be upturned. So you get what I mean, depending on how your upper jaw moves your nose will flared up or not. Hope this helps.
 

bonbon739

New Member
Dec 28, 2020
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Thanks so much, this was helpful to know. May I ask what other surgeries you got in Korea? I want to get others as well but DJS is my priority and I'm not sure what surgeries are safe to get at the same time. I also want to get a forehead reduction and facial fat transfer to my cheeks.
 

xiaole.san

Hello3San
Jul 8, 2019
22
10
Sure I'm happy to help. I think you can get forehead reduction before your double jaw surgery. After double jaw surgery, you can't open your mouth so you can't do other surgeries because they'll need to have tubing through your mouth during surgery. So facial fat graft will have to wait at least 6 months after double jaw surgery for your face to deswell and accurate grafting to be done to your face.
 

bbluesound

Member
Oct 27, 2020
14
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has anyone gotten their money back from a DJS at the face dental? i had an immediate relapse bc of a bad joint. he noticed my right condyle was smaller and he was weary, but he operated on me anyways and now im worse off and in pain. he's really sweet and said he'll reoperate on me again 13 days po to reposition the jaws without cutting, but im sort of terrified. i dont think he has very good understanding of my joint issue. i just sort of want some of my money back so that I can get it fixed in the states. what is my recourse?
 
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@xiaole.san how are the facilities where the Face Dental surgeon operates? Is it the clinic, is it a different hospital? Does it have a ICU in case something goes wrong?