Well, since my outlet has none of the items that I want right now, and they said they are doing inventory next week and will have nothing new then either, I had to break down and get these two little goodies on ebay. Not outlet prices, but I got two good b/o acceptances, so Im pleased. My good buddy Mokie suggested these would work great w/my ruby patent gallery tote, and that was it - I had to have them! Will post their modeling pic when both pieces arrive.