Thank you whateve, yes it makes sense not to emboss if there is a creed. I believe I saw one with both and that made me wonder, but I might have been mistaken.They changed the specifics of the design over time. They are all the same style. When they put the creed inside, it wasn't necessary to put the Coach embossing on the exterior. It is style #7165 chunky case. Yours was probably made in the mid to late 90s.