Official bottega veneta chat thread - thread #4

[V0N1B2]

Thank you for your work on this forum jburgh

I m not sure if this is along the lines you are asking, but I have wanted to post about it for while but did not know where. So here it goes

When trying to buy preowned, it is incredibly helpful for me to find pictures of older styles/colors and so frustrating when the pictures have been deleted from the post. So who deletes the pictures? Can all pictures be preserved?

This is mostly due to people using sites like photobucket to upload pictures. If something gets deleted from their photobucket account, or like what happened more recently with the change to their TOS (and tried to get people to pay $300/yr to have their images hosted) all their images are removed, so then all you see here is a broken link or something similar. So when images are hotlinked they can be lost. It’s a similar dilemma when a link to (let’s say) an item on the BV website is posted. It’s great while the image is still there, but once it’s gone from the site, it’s gone from here too. The photo, accompanying text etc can’t be seen once the season is over.
It would be awesome if everyone uploaded photos directly from their computer and/or took a screen cap or something from the website and posted it along with the link they are referring to.
Is that kinda what you meant?

 

[dolali]

This is mostly due to people using sites like photobucket to upload pictures. If something gets deleted from their photobucket account, or like what happened more recently with the change to their TOS (and tried to get people to pay $300/yr to have their images hosted) all their images are removed, so then all you see here is a broken link or something similar. So when images are hotlinked they can be lost. It’s a similar dilemma when a link to (let’s say) an item on the BV website is posted. It’s great while the image is still there, but once it’s gone from the site, it’s gone from here too. The photo, accompanying text etc can’t be seen once the season is over.
It would be awesome if everyone uploaded photos directly from their computer and/or took a screen cap or something from the website and posted it along with the link they are referring to.
Is that kinda what you meant?

Yes, that is exactly was I referring to! Thank for explaining it VON! Makes sense now to me. So PF cant do anything about it. Boo.

 

[muchstuff]

Thank you for your work on this forum jburgh

I m not sure if this is along the lines you are asking, but I have wanted to post about it for while but did not know where. So here it goes

When trying to buy preowned, it is incredibly helpful for me to find pictures of older styles/colors and so frustrating when the pictures have been deleted from the post. So who deletes the pictures? Can all pictures be preserved?

I remember a lot of photos were lost awhile back when the website was updated. Apparently there was no way to get them back.

 

[dolali]

I remember a lot of photos were lost awhile back when the website was updated. Apparently there was no way to get them back.

What a shame! I think valuable information and history was lost about so many bags!

 

[muchstuff]

What a shame! I think valuable information and history was lost about so many bags!

I agree.

 

[ksuromax]

i agree with V0N, and would only suggest to, perhaps, use already existing threads e.g. 'how many Cervo Hobos/Pillows/Venetas, etc, do we have?' as a base for the style ref thread where a lot of pics already available
Too much of the hassle?

 

[jburgh]

Thank you for your work on this forum jburgh

I m not sure if this is along the lines you are asking, but I have wanted to post about it for while but did not know where. So here it goes

When trying to buy preowned, it is incredibly helpful for me to find pictures of older styles/colors and so frustrating when the pictures have been deleted from the post. So who deletes the pictures? Can all pictures be preserved?

Dolali - Many people put in their photos as a link to a website like photobucket or dropbox in stead of actually attaching the photo to a post. When their image databases get deleted, the images go away. Yes, it is quite frustrating. Please always attach the photo, do not link if at all possible. Yes it is a little more work, but totally worth it.

 

[jburgh]

Dolali - Many people put in there photos as a link to a website like photobucket or dropbox in stead os actually attaching the photo to a post. When their image databases get deleted, the images go away. Yes, it is quite frustrating. Please always attach the photo, do not link if at all possible. Yes it is a little more work, but totally worth it.

This is mostly due to people using sites like photobucket to upload pictures. If something gets deleted from their photobucket account, or like what happened more recently with the change to their TOS (and tried to get people to pay $300/yr to have their images hosted) all their images are removed, so then all you see here is a broken link or something similar. So when images are hotlinked they can be lost. It’s a similar dilemma when a link to (let’s say) an item on the BV website is posted. It’s great while the image is still there, but once it’s gone from the site, it’s gone from here too. The photo, accompanying text etc can’t be seen once the season is over.
It would be awesome if everyone uploaded photos directly from their computer and/or took a screen cap or something from the website and posted it along with the link they are referring to.
Is that kinda what you meant?

Whoops, i answered this later. Thank you for more detail.

 

[jburgh]

Well, since you asked....
I’d really like to see the Unique Treatments thread as a sticky - perhaps in the Reference Library? Speaking of... there are some stickied threads there now that don’t need to be there anymore. Case in point: the one about the comparisons between Milano, Ball Bags, and Pyramids etc. BV hadn’t made those bags in almost ten years. Those can be absorbed into the “style” Reference Library. Same for the comparison threads. All useful and handy fir quick reference in the RF, but maybe not necessarily something that need to be a sticky. I think the only stickies that need to be in the RF are maybe Colour Reference (which needs updating), the Leather Guide (which is a great place to showcase all the skins used), the Unique Weaving & Treatment thread, and the current Seasonal thread.
JMO

In addition to these suggestions, I have really wanted to start a thread for each of the popular bag styles offered by BV. For example:
“The Bottega Veneta Nodini Messenger Bag” aka The “Pillow”. Kind of a catch-all for all things Nodini. A place for people to post their bags, their experiences with the bag, what colours and treatments are available seasonally etc. A place where we can direct people to check out how to shorten the strap, or what can fit in the bag etc. it can take a lot of time and energy to answer (easily searchable) questions when people ask the same things over and over again. The RL is great to look at pictures but it is a no talking sanctuary. In these new threads, people can chat freely about that particular bag.
One thread for the Veneta, the Roma, the Cervo Hobo, the Cervo Loop, the Olimpia, the Knot, City Knot, the Loop, whatever new bags are coming out.... you get the idea.
What are everyone’s thoughts on this?

@V0N1B2 , I've made some changes that were suggested by you and others. I think it seems more logical now. But I have a follow-up question regarding Seasonal threads. Yes, it makes sense to stickie them. But we need some sort of timeline. We often start those months before the season officially arrives in retail. This means overlap. Currently we have these seasons: Resort, Spring/Summer, Early Fall, and Fall. We've had a Fall 2019 for months. Which thread gets stickied? All opinions welcomed. I like to have input so this place is more enjoyable...thanks

 

[jburgh]

i agree with V0N, and would only suggest to, perhaps, use already existing threads e.g. 'how many Cervo Hobos/Pillows/Venetas, etc, do we have?' as a base for the style ref thread where a lot of pics already available
Too much of the hassle?

That is an interesting question to ponder, @ksuromax . We have style threads in the reference library, but these are no chatting threads, so you can quickly flip through them. It is great to have the Ode to the Roma, How many pillows do you have, etc, There we can ask questions, make suggestions, occasionally go off topic. It seems more organic to me. It wouldn't be a hassle to merge those, but I kind of like having both. Lets all talk about this.

 

[jburgh]

Chatty tonight, clearly this is what my 5th post in a row?... Today I've embarked on the year of downsizing. I've lost about 40 pounds and I'm never going back. My knees already feel better. Donating all the clothes to Goodwill, and a womans shelter. There comes a time when you feel like your possessions own you. Have any of you gotten to this point? How many sets of dishes does one need? Not necessarity talking bags.

 

[southernbelle43]

Chatty tonight, clearly this is what my 5th post in a row?... Today I've embarked on the year of downsizing. I've lost about 40 pounds and I'm never going back. My knees already feel better. Donating all the clothes to Goodwill, and a womans shelter. There comes a time when you feel like your possessions own you. Have any of you gotten to this point? How many sets of dishes does one need? Not necessarity talking bags.

Good for you. You have taken control. Congratulations. And we knew you were not includng bags, of course!

 

[jburgh]

Here comes post #6, hehe.
So, I really like this forum. I've been at the PF for a pretty long time. Like a lot of you, I didn't start out in BV. My love back then was Bal. Goatskin was it for me, love that stuff. But I made my way here, because as an ex-weaver, I was attracted by the intrecciato and superb handcrafting. And I like getting to know members. You know, if you have an issue with me, want to make a suggestion or need help, you can always PM me.

 

[ksuromax]

Here comes post #6, hehe.
So, I really like this forum. I've been at the PF for a pretty long time. Like a lot of you, I didn't start out in BV. My love back then was Bal. Goatskin was it for me, love that stuff. But I made my way here, because as an ex-weaver, I was attracted by the intrecciato and superb handcrafting. And I like getting to know members. You know, if you have an issue with me, want to make a suggestion or need help, you can always PM me.

big fan of Bal here as well!
although i started with BV and then discovered Bal.

 

[V0N1B2]

@V0N1B2 , I've made some changes that were suggested by you and others. I think it seems more logical now. But I have a follow-up question regarding Seasonal threads. Yes, it makes sense to stickie them. But we need some sort of timeline. We often start those months before the season officially arrives in retail. This means overlap. Currently we have these seasons: Resort, Spring/Summer, Early Fall, and Fall. We've had a Fall 2019 for months. Which thread gets stickied? All opinions welcomed. I like to have input so this place is more enjoyable...thanks

Okay... regarding seasonal threads:
Under normal circumstances, we would have the Spring/Summer 2019 thread in the main forum since those items are now in stores. In January, the Pre-Fall 2019 collection dropped, so the Spring/Summer thread could go to the Reference Library - but still stickied, because those items are the ones that are in stores now. We can still discuss new styles, colours etc. that we are seeing both online and in boutiques. In two weeks, the Fall/Winter collection will be showing. Personally, I think that Early Fall and Fall/Winter are two separate collections but in an effort to KonMari this place we could amalgamate them when the Fall/Winter show happens. Then it could be stickied in the main forum.
I dunno, just thinking out loud