Annyeonghaseyo yeoreobun!
Well after a few months researching and a trip to Seoul for consultations, I have finally had my surgery yesterday. Ill give you some background first and then talk about the clinics and procedures. This forum helped me a great deal in learning more about ps in Korea and Im hoping to be able to give something back
First of all I am a 34 year old Australian guy. I have never liked my nose and developed a double chin some time ago that I could not get rid of. Even after dieting down to 4.8% body fat, I still had the damn chin! So I started researching ps and discovered a few other things that I needed to do
My final shopping list was as follows:
-Botox for overdeveloped masseter (jaw) muscles
-Rhino: humpectomy, lateral osteotomy and tiplasty
-Ptosis correction on right eye
-Acculift and thread lift combo for double chin and saggy jawline
-Chin implant
-Hairline transplantation (Ill discuss this separately at the end)
Originally I had no idea what surgeries would benefit me, but eventually compiled this list with the help of this forum and the clinics themselves. Seeking advice is also a great way to assess whether a clinic is just trying to sell you as much surgery as possible or actually cares about your situation. So dont be afraid to tell them your concerns without mentioning specific procedures and see what they come back with. For example I had a couple of clinics tell me that I needed two jaw surgery -this is majorly overkill for me and what I wanted to achieve.
As I work a 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off roster here in Aus, I did one trip to Seoul for the consults and I am now on my second trip for the surgery. I didnt want to rush my decision and also wanted maximum recovery time before heading back to work. I consulted with a lot of clinics -I had the time.
-Cinderella
-The Line
-Jayjun
-JW
-April 31
-Baum
-DAPRS
-Dream
-Item
Ill spare everyone a long winded breakdown of each clinic, but please message me if you have any questions and Im more than happy to spend some time talking in private about their pros and cons in my opinion.
To get to the point, the only clinics that I felt took their time with me and actually cared about my specific situation on a professional and personal level were JW, April 31 and Baum. The rest werent fully blown factories but I didnt feel like they really cared. Trust is important to me, especially when its my face. If they dont connect with you and seem to really care about getting you the best results now, what makes you think theyll care once theyve got your money? Simple answer is they wont. That being said, Im definitely not saying dont go to the other clinics listed here, this is just my personal experience. Do your research, visit the clinics and make your own assessment.
JW, April 31 and Baum all took their time with me, did a thorough assessment and spoke at length with me about what I wanted. They listened to my concerns and tried to tailor a recommendation that also factored in the surgeries that I was comfortable with and those that I wasnt (I wasnt particularly keen on having and invasive bone surgery at this point). Baum got ruled out simply because the surgeon didnt seem 100% confident about the surgeries he was recommending. There was lots of it should do and I hope so
This left JW and April 31 and Jenny is cuter than Brian, so I went with JW. No Im kidding of course, but I did go with JW. April 31 seem like real experts in their relative fields. They took their time and I trust that they would have done a great job, however they were really expensive and I wasnt convinced about what they specifically wanted to do to my nose. Tip spreading as opposed to Dr.Suh from JWs work on my medial crus (sorry if I have the terminology wrong). Again, please PM for more details.
So after making a deposit (btw dont stress about taking cash overseas or paying the 10% credit card surcharge, you can just do an online wire transfer), the surgeries were booked in. At JW we decided on:
-Partial incision ptosis correction to BOTH eyes. As some of you may have read, ptosis correction on one eye can cause more ptosis on the other eye. For this reason Dr. Kang decided to do both eyes to assure as close as possible symmetry.
-Acculift to double chin and jawline, plus thread lift for saggy skin. I really wanted a tapered and slim face, with a defined jawline and without bone surgery. So this is why Dr. Kang recommended the double lift The thread lift is not permanent, but Im a little young for a full face lift procedure.
-Botox for jaw muscle reduction. We did this before I left for home the first time and by the time I got back to Korea I could already see a pretty good result!
-The above mentioned rhino procedures. Tiplasty specifically Dr.Suh shortened my medial crus and used thread I believe to pull my projected tip down and give it a smooth contour with my bridge. He also opted for an implant post humpectomy.
-Small 4 to 5mm chin implant for added projection.
Day 1: This Monday gone I headed in at 9:30am to prepare for eye surgery and Acculift/thread lift. I consulted with Dr. Kang again just to confirm exactly what he was going to do which was great. For the eye surgery I had local anaesthetic, but no happy drugs unfortunately
Boring! Its quite weird being able to smell your own burning flesh when they use the little heat pen thing, but he didnt take long and after a bit of open eyes close eyes look my eyes we were done. Although Im swelled up pretty bad now, he showed me my eyes immediately post op and they looked bloody brilliant.
Next I had a quick toilet break and on to the lifting procedures -and drugs! Woohoo! I love how the anaesthesiologist says Okay Ben, Im going to put you down now and Im like Wait, what? then the trip starts and I fell asleep. Then it seemed like I instantly woke up and the procedures were all done. Ill go into more detail about the staff at the end, but I want to quickly mention that the delightful Jenny has been with me every step of the way until now. Every consultation, every question I had (no matter the time of day or night) and even being right next to me in the theater until I fell asleep. She is an absolute gem and I cant recommend her enough.
Next I was taken to a recovery room where I relaxed for maybe an hour before going home. They needed to give me an extra dose of sleep anesthesia to get me off properly for the lifting procedures, hence the longer duration in the recovery room.
That night I struggled to sleep because its bloody noisy at Sunshine Hotel. Everyone talks about this place, but I dont recommend it. The staff look like theyre on death row and as I said its a really noisy area. My a/c is also buggered and the fridge is not cold and has no freezer for my ice pack. There is also next to nothing on the room service menu. I stayed at Best Western last time and it beats this place hands down in every way. Moving on
Day 2: Day two was chin implant and nose day. The schedule got pretty messed up and there ended up being several changes to what surgery I would have and when. The end result was chin implant first, then a pretty big wait of 3 or so hours before doing nose at around 6pm. But these things happen, everyone was genuinely apologetic and the manager offered me some free skin treatments so I appreciate that. We all make mistakes. Again, I consulted with the relevant doctors before surgery to confirm the game plan. For the chin implant, I was doped up, but awake. This is required because you need to swallow fluids, similar to a dental procedure (the chin implant goes in through an incision in your mouth btw). Pretty cool when he drilled through the implant into my chin and fixed it with screws. Like what the hell am I doing?!
Eventually it was time for the nose with renowned Dr.Suh and by now Jenny and I were really excited. It was quite funny actually! By the way, I dont know if they did it because Im a westerner, but the radio was playing western music bad western music. Like Bon Jovi, Whitney Houston and Bryan Adams. By this last surgery I couldnt take it anymore and embarrassed myself by requesting Kpop. I think I was still high. But anyway, I got to listen to the soothing sounds of Lovelyz brand new hit Destiny before I was put down again. Next thing, were all done and I was actually quite energised! I didnt have to spend long in the recovery room and Jenny stayed with me the whole time, even though it was now around 8:30pm and she was on unpaid overtime. Sweetheart. That night I had the most amazing, restful sleep Ive ever had. Not really. I listened to roadworks all night and whenever I would nod off a bit, blood would start gushing out of my nose and I would jump up and freak out. A/C was still out of action, so I had to open the window and enjoy front row seats listening to the construction supervisor (Im guessing) tell his workers how they are doing everything wrong and in his day they would have been finished, gone home and half way through a bottle of soju by now. But oh well.
Which brings me to now! My first real post op recovery day. I have a lot of meds and drinks and mouth washes to use, all provided by JW. I also went back in and they washed my hair, cleaned my nose and gave me some laser treatment for deswelling. I think the plan is to do this every day or two until one week, when I have the stitches out. Well, so far so good. I cant speak highly enough of Jenny and JW. They have looked after me every step of the way from consultation to post op. Tomorrow I go back in for Dr. Lee to check on my chin implant also. Ill keep you guys updated as things go by, at the moment my face is swelling up quite a lot and bruises forming under my eyes -obviously this is to be expected.
Speak to you tomorrow!
Well after a few months researching and a trip to Seoul for consultations, I have finally had my surgery yesterday. Ill give you some background first and then talk about the clinics and procedures. This forum helped me a great deal in learning more about ps in Korea and Im hoping to be able to give something back
First of all I am a 34 year old Australian guy. I have never liked my nose and developed a double chin some time ago that I could not get rid of. Even after dieting down to 4.8% body fat, I still had the damn chin! So I started researching ps and discovered a few other things that I needed to do
My final shopping list was as follows:-Botox for overdeveloped masseter (jaw) muscles
-Rhino: humpectomy, lateral osteotomy and tiplasty
-Ptosis correction on right eye
-Acculift and thread lift combo for double chin and saggy jawline
-Chin implant
-Hairline transplantation (Ill discuss this separately at the end)
Originally I had no idea what surgeries would benefit me, but eventually compiled this list with the help of this forum and the clinics themselves. Seeking advice is also a great way to assess whether a clinic is just trying to sell you as much surgery as possible or actually cares about your situation. So dont be afraid to tell them your concerns without mentioning specific procedures and see what they come back with. For example I had a couple of clinics tell me that I needed two jaw surgery -this is majorly overkill for me and what I wanted to achieve.
As I work a 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off roster here in Aus, I did one trip to Seoul for the consults and I am now on my second trip for the surgery. I didnt want to rush my decision and also wanted maximum recovery time before heading back to work. I consulted with a lot of clinics -I had the time.
-Cinderella
-The Line
-Jayjun
-JW
-April 31
-Baum
-DAPRS
-Dream
-Item
Ill spare everyone a long winded breakdown of each clinic, but please message me if you have any questions and Im more than happy to spend some time talking in private about their pros and cons in my opinion.
To get to the point, the only clinics that I felt took their time with me and actually cared about my specific situation on a professional and personal level were JW, April 31 and Baum. The rest werent fully blown factories but I didnt feel like they really cared. Trust is important to me, especially when its my face. If they dont connect with you and seem to really care about getting you the best results now, what makes you think theyll care once theyve got your money? Simple answer is they wont. That being said, Im definitely not saying dont go to the other clinics listed here, this is just my personal experience. Do your research, visit the clinics and make your own assessment.
JW, April 31 and Baum all took their time with me, did a thorough assessment and spoke at length with me about what I wanted. They listened to my concerns and tried to tailor a recommendation that also factored in the surgeries that I was comfortable with and those that I wasnt (I wasnt particularly keen on having and invasive bone surgery at this point). Baum got ruled out simply because the surgeon didnt seem 100% confident about the surgeries he was recommending. There was lots of it should do and I hope so
This left JW and April 31 and Jenny is cuter than Brian, so I went with JW. No Im kidding of course, but I did go with JW. April 31 seem like real experts in their relative fields. They took their time and I trust that they would have done a great job, however they were really expensive and I wasnt convinced about what they specifically wanted to do to my nose. Tip spreading as opposed to Dr.Suh from JWs work on my medial crus (sorry if I have the terminology wrong). Again, please PM for more details.
So after making a deposit (btw dont stress about taking cash overseas or paying the 10% credit card surcharge, you can just do an online wire transfer), the surgeries were booked in. At JW we decided on:
-Partial incision ptosis correction to BOTH eyes. As some of you may have read, ptosis correction on one eye can cause more ptosis on the other eye. For this reason Dr. Kang decided to do both eyes to assure as close as possible symmetry.
-Acculift to double chin and jawline, plus thread lift for saggy skin. I really wanted a tapered and slim face, with a defined jawline and without bone surgery. So this is why Dr. Kang recommended the double lift The thread lift is not permanent, but Im a little young for a full face lift procedure.
-Botox for jaw muscle reduction. We did this before I left for home the first time and by the time I got back to Korea I could already see a pretty good result!
-The above mentioned rhino procedures. Tiplasty specifically Dr.Suh shortened my medial crus and used thread I believe to pull my projected tip down and give it a smooth contour with my bridge. He also opted for an implant post humpectomy.
-Small 4 to 5mm chin implant for added projection.
Day 1: This Monday gone I headed in at 9:30am to prepare for eye surgery and Acculift/thread lift. I consulted with Dr. Kang again just to confirm exactly what he was going to do which was great. For the eye surgery I had local anaesthetic, but no happy drugs unfortunately
Boring! Its quite weird being able to smell your own burning flesh when they use the little heat pen thing, but he didnt take long and after a bit of open eyes close eyes look my eyes we were done. Although Im swelled up pretty bad now, he showed me my eyes immediately post op and they looked bloody brilliant.Next I had a quick toilet break and on to the lifting procedures -and drugs! Woohoo! I love how the anaesthesiologist says Okay Ben, Im going to put you down now and Im like Wait, what? then the trip starts and I fell asleep. Then it seemed like I instantly woke up and the procedures were all done. Ill go into more detail about the staff at the end, but I want to quickly mention that the delightful Jenny has been with me every step of the way until now. Every consultation, every question I had (no matter the time of day or night) and even being right next to me in the theater until I fell asleep. She is an absolute gem and I cant recommend her enough.
Next I was taken to a recovery room where I relaxed for maybe an hour before going home. They needed to give me an extra dose of sleep anesthesia to get me off properly for the lifting procedures, hence the longer duration in the recovery room.
That night I struggled to sleep because its bloody noisy at Sunshine Hotel. Everyone talks about this place, but I dont recommend it. The staff look like theyre on death row and as I said its a really noisy area. My a/c is also buggered and the fridge is not cold and has no freezer for my ice pack. There is also next to nothing on the room service menu. I stayed at Best Western last time and it beats this place hands down in every way. Moving on
Day 2: Day two was chin implant and nose day. The schedule got pretty messed up and there ended up being several changes to what surgery I would have and when. The end result was chin implant first, then a pretty big wait of 3 or so hours before doing nose at around 6pm. But these things happen, everyone was genuinely apologetic and the manager offered me some free skin treatments so I appreciate that. We all make mistakes. Again, I consulted with the relevant doctors before surgery to confirm the game plan. For the chin implant, I was doped up, but awake. This is required because you need to swallow fluids, similar to a dental procedure (the chin implant goes in through an incision in your mouth btw). Pretty cool when he drilled through the implant into my chin and fixed it with screws. Like what the hell am I doing?!
Eventually it was time for the nose with renowned Dr.Suh and by now Jenny and I were really excited. It was quite funny actually! By the way, I dont know if they did it because Im a westerner, but the radio was playing western music bad western music. Like Bon Jovi, Whitney Houston and Bryan Adams. By this last surgery I couldnt take it anymore and embarrassed myself by requesting Kpop. I think I was still high. But anyway, I got to listen to the soothing sounds of Lovelyz brand new hit Destiny before I was put down again. Next thing, were all done and I was actually quite energised! I didnt have to spend long in the recovery room and Jenny stayed with me the whole time, even though it was now around 8:30pm and she was on unpaid overtime. Sweetheart. That night I had the most amazing, restful sleep Ive ever had. Not really. I listened to roadworks all night and whenever I would nod off a bit, blood would start gushing out of my nose and I would jump up and freak out. A/C was still out of action, so I had to open the window and enjoy front row seats listening to the construction supervisor (Im guessing) tell his workers how they are doing everything wrong and in his day they would have been finished, gone home and half way through a bottle of soju by now. But oh well.
Which brings me to now! My first real post op recovery day. I have a lot of meds and drinks and mouth washes to use, all provided by JW. I also went back in and they washed my hair, cleaned my nose and gave me some laser treatment for deswelling. I think the plan is to do this every day or two until one week, when I have the stitches out. Well, so far so good. I cant speak highly enough of Jenny and JW. They have looked after me every step of the way from consultation to post op. Tomorrow I go back in for Dr. Lee to check on my chin implant also. Ill keep you guys updated as things go by, at the moment my face is swelling up quite a lot and bruises forming under my eyes -obviously this is to be expected.
Speak to you tomorrow!
