Hmmm....curious about this, too. Don't know about the embossed black vernis or the one with the white fleurs. That was before LVO ---LV obsession --- took effect. LOL
I'm sure there are other PFers that have these answers! Good question!!
Yeah MJ came awhile ago..for one, he collaborated with Murakami to create those lines (which includes MC which was made in 04), so that was a few years ago.
I'll check out my LV book to find out the exact date he entered LV's world.
Anyway as for black vernis, this is the absolute only vernis piece (with the monogram print) they made (this is the black Fleurs Lexington)...