The only thing that bothers me about Aloha Rag is they refuse to look at the bags and describe the leather to you until you fill out an order form. I told them I didn't feel comfortable sending in a fax with CC info giving them permission to charge me and send me the bag until I could talk to someone about how the leather looks. I'm really particular about not wanting thin crispy veiny leather and they said the only way to look into it was to fill out an order form. They're very nice though, just not sure if I want to take the chance. And if you hate it you have to pay a restocking fee and shipping back to Hawaii.