Gucci Signature Hysteria - Ivory leather

New to purse forum. Forgive me if I’m posting in the wrong place…. I recently acquired a second hand Gucci signature hysteria bag made from ivory leather. I took it into the wild before using any protectant and it’s my 1st time spending so much on a bag, so really don’t know what I’m doing. It’s not in bad shape or anything, but I know I need to clean it, condition it and use some sort of protectant. Do you all recommend Apple products for cleaning and conditioning and gaurde for protection? Will these darken the leather? The handles definitely look a bit darker in general. Will cleaning get them back to the regular ivory or do I need to send the bag in to Rago Brothers for restoration & possibly dying darker? I’ve always been pretty rough with my purses and just used them, but I really like this one and want to learn how to care for a nicer purse properly. Thx for any guidance!!
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Is Louis Vuitton changing their packaging ?

I just received my Murakami bag today (from Neiman Marcus) and noticed that the box is different ( no magnetic flap, but there is a square tab that holds the flap close. Would like to know if anyone has insight on this change ? :shocked:
I got my denim Nano Noe in this box, I'm located in the EU. This new box drives me nuts, because I have no clue how to close it. 🤦‍♀️
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Jean Dousset Jewelry

About 6 months ago, I went on the hunt for a while gold diamond pendant and decided to give this company a try. It was my very first lab grown diamond. I ordered their Chelsea pendant with a round brilliant diamond around 1 carat. I was very underwhelmed when I received it. The chain was diamond cut and shiny, but an unattractive grayish color (despite it being rhodium-plated) and also whisper thin. The diamond itself looked a bit cloudy (even after cleaning) and had a grayish tinge to it. That experience totally put me off buying lab diamonds as well, because it was advertised with F+/VS1+ yet it looked completely off to my eyes (and I'm not even picky!).

It also rubs me the wrong way that Dousset touts his lineage from the Cartier family even though he has nothing to do with the company. Personally, I wouldn't buy from them again. The return policy was very easy, though, if you wanted to try them out.

YSL Brand Updates?

Kering as a whole is having trouble as a company lol. They're quarterly earning have been dropping since last year. Publicly Gucci has been getting all the drama press because it's their highest earner, but sales have fallen across the board for most of their brands. This however, varies from category to category (other items such as eyewear and makeup have either stayed strong or saw an increase in revenue).

Taken from Google AI
Kering's 2024 annual results, released on February 11, 2025, showed a 12% decrease in revenue compared to 2023. The company's recurring operating income also fell by 46% year-over-year, and the recurring operating margin dropped to 14.9%.

Key Points:

  • Revenue Decline: Kering's group revenue for 2024 was €17.2 billion, down 12% compared to 2023.
  • Operating Income: The recurring operating income was €2.554 billion, a 46% decrease compared to 2023.
  • Gross Margin: The gross margin declined to 66% in 2024, down from 71% in 2023.
  • Key Brand Performance: Gucci's revenue dropped 24% in the fourth quarter and 23% overall, while Saint Laurent's revenue decreased by 8% in Q4 and 12% overall.
  • Wholesale Revenue: Wholesale revenue decreased significantly, particularly in the fourth quarter, with a 53% drop on a comparable basis.
  • Jewelry Houses: Kering's Jewelry Houses demonstrated a resilient performance.
  • Other Houses: Sales of the Other Houses were down 4% in Q4 on a comparable basis, with varying performance across individual brands.
  • Eyewear and Corporate: This segment generated revenue of €440 million in Q3, up 32% as reported.
You can also go to Kering's website, since they post their results publicly.


Dated, hmm, depends. If you consider the literal amount of time that has passed since the camera bag has came out with the tassel, yes, it's been a while. But how long one considers things or styles to be dated depends on subjective interpretation of society.
Tassels, to me, are like bag charms, so they come and go.
Which envelope? lol, they're so many variations of the envelop bag that its hard to keep track of.

I know that they've been a little heavy on price increases the past few years. In recent years they've also pulled their bags from 3rd party online sellers or removed the ability to use discounts and coupons for for 3rd party online and brick&mortar stores.

From a creative or design perspective, I feel like YSL remains true to its identity and style while trying to freshen up things here and there. While most of their bags are heavily logoed, they are very much if-you-know-you-know when it comes to some of their shoes but mainly RTW. Anthony Vaccarello, I personally believe, remains true to the house codes and yet gives YSL its own distinct style and flair that is recognizable but not obvious, striking yet not avant garde, wearable (occasionally borderline boring haha) but flattering and well-constructed. Not in the sense that, wow, you're wearing YSL, but more like, wow, I love your jacket or pants (I get many compliments from wearing YSL, and yet most don't really know it's YSL until I tell them)

As for how the brand will do in the future, only time will tell. I did think they did push the price increases a little too hard and too fast. However, they have been price adjusting on bags and RTW here and there. Not by alot, maybe a decrease of $100-$300.
They have not decided to drop shoe prices, which makes me sad because I do like their shoes. But now I really need to consider what to buy when they're all basically $1k at this point.
Wow thank you for such an informative response! I’ve been mostly out of the loop. I’ve never been a Gucci fan. Not like I’d turn one down haha but it’s not my vibe. I’m YSL all the way so I should really just stay authentic to what I like and not care but when you purchase these bags you want them to be relevant I guess.

I do hope the brand settles out but it looks like that data you shared doesn’t show huge losses particularly for YSL. I think the quiet luxury trend and the price hikes may have messed with them. Just a guess though.

I have the small envelope in dark beige and gold and she’s a beauty! I just ordered a mini gaby zip pouch because Neiman Marcus still has it as USD 1350 but the YSL site says 1450. I’ve been wanting that bag as a casual crossbody that sits close to the body and can be very casual while fitting essentials and slightly plus. I’m excited to see it - I got it in dark cork because I have enough black bags. I think I’m good for now after this haha. I almost went with the dark beige Lou camera bag but everyone I see it in preloved market the corners are worn and I want to be able to feel comfortable wearing it casually and not worrying about it so I felt like dark beige in the grained leather was a better option and I wouldn’t wear that bag like to the park lol.

Thoughts on the Kelly Multipocket?

Does anyone have the Kelly Multipocket in Box leather? Would love to hear some insight on how this style of bag ages and looks in box leather. I've added a stock photo I came across on the internet in Noir Box PHW. TIA!
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I will let you know. Just got the same box leather version. Box can be refurbished and develops a beautiful patina so I think it will be nice.
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Has NM/BG's inventory management improved?

I ordered a few small items in early April of this year. It took 3 weeks for the first item to get here. After another week, I called customer service and cancelled the other two items which were languishing somewhere in the FedEx system. My credit card was refunded. A short while later the second item showed up and then finally last week, the third item arrived 6 weeks after I ordered it.

At no point during the ordering process was there any suggestion that the items weren't in stock. Oh well.

Kate Spade Whats in the bag????

I don't understand the interchange or exchange of PU, Pleather being called leather in several brands but especially Kate Spade. I ordered a bag thinking it was leather. The Kate Spade stores employees thought the bag was patent leather as well. I only found out after purchase it was not leather from Neiman Marcus. How do you have PU with leather trim? What is that? I feel it’s dishonest and a tread that started with coatings on cloth being made vague. Same bag but different discriptions. Thoughts? How to determine what is leather before purchase?
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