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Christiflora · Oct 20th, 2006, 05:24 PM

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Christiflora · Oct 20th, 2006, 05:39 PM

Kallie Girl · Oct 20th, 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by susan-eric

Christiflora--The black one is large. I'm not sure about the brown one, but why is there a hangtag on a used brown Muse anyway? There should not even be a handtag on a NEW Muse. Neither has enough photos to make me completely confident, but the black one might be okay, if you could get more photos, esp. of the tag inside (the back side of it) and the embossed signature on the outside of the bag.

I agree. I wouldn't touch the chocolate one... no way. I like that the seller of the black one seems straight forward and says she is the original owner of the bag. I would personally feel OK buying the black one.

susan-eric · Oct 20th, 2006, 07:44 PM

I couldn't really see the serial number or the embossed signature too clearly in the photos. I think it's a good sign that she sent them--but they're very blurry.

Christiflora · Oct 20th, 2006, 10:37 PM

Thanks, susan-eric and Kallie Girl. Like you, I feel good about the seller and her bag. Now, I have to make the decision between going with the black or wait for my dream chocolate brown Muse.

Yes, I'll stay away from the seller with the chocolate bag.

kbolles · Oct 20th, 2006, 11:59 PM

Hi all,

this Muse has 35 min left in the auction. Any advice on if it's fake?

eBay: Gorgeous YSL Yves Saint Laurent Oversized Muse L Black (item 190043217456 end time Oct-20-06 21:29:49 PDT)

Kallie Girl · Oct 21st, 2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by kbolles

Hi all,

this Muse has 35 min left in the auction. Any advice on if it's fake?

eBay: Gorgeous YSL Yves Saint Laurent Oversized Muse L Black (item 190043217456 end time Oct-20-06 21:29:49 PDT)

I realize it's over but maybe this will help someone else. Anytime someone is selling a brand new bag at waaaay less than retail... ask them how they happen to be able to do this. This bag has never been on sale. The retail price is $1295. So why wouldn't they just return a brand new bag to the store and get a full refund? Why sell it at over $500 less than it was purchased for? In 99.99999% of these situations... the bag is a fake.

susan-eric · Oct 21st, 2006, 10:40 AM

^^I agree. Also, both of my Muses came in a white authenticity sleeve. The black authenticity sleeves seem to go with some of the other (earlier) styles. I'm not sure if they've switched colors, or if it's just the Muses that come in white sleeves because my other YSL bags with black sleeves were all earlier styles.

kbolles · Oct 21st, 2006, 12:07 PM

Thanks, Susan-eric and Kallie-girl. After reading the posts on this forum, I'm now pretty hesitant to use ebay at all. Its so hard to see quality over the internet, so waiting a few months and hording my salary to buy a retail Muse seems to be the best option. Sigh.

kbolles · Oct 21st, 2006, 03:42 PM

Balenci.com----is that website legitimate? They have the oversize muse for $995, which is the cheapest I've seen that at least seems like an authentic bag. Anyone know? Also, anyone know of other websites with the best prices? Saks has it for $1295.

I have NEVER paid this much for a handbag. At least I've read enough from all your posts to think its worthwhile for this one...

K

Christiflora · Oct 21st, 2006, 03:53 PM

Dear Kellie-girl and susan-eric,

Besides the black authenticity sleeves and the price, what are the telltale signs on this bag that suggest it is fake?

BTW, what are the authenticity sleeves? Are they cards?

ref eBay listing #190043217456 that expired.

susan-eric · Oct 21st, 2006, 04:11 PM

^^The sleeve contains a card. The serial number on the card should match the underside of the tag. That the serial number is not photographed would make me hesitant to purchase this. I didn't see any obvious signs of anything wrong, other than that the authenticity sleeve was the wrong color. But the stitching looks odd in the photograph and the parts which would be clear giveaways--the embossed signature on the outside, the serial number, the card content--were either not photographed or were photographed in a manner which wasn't clear. Sometimes people misplace cards and it doesn't mean anything. But to have the cards there and to not photograph the detail and then for their container to be the wrong color is weird.

Kallie Girl · Oct 21st, 2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Christiflora

Dear Kellie-girl and susan-eric,

Besides the black authenticity sleeves and the price, what are the telltale signs on this bag that suggest it is fake?

BTW, what are the authenticity sleeves? Are they cards?

ref eBay listing #190043217456 that expired.

I can't tell enough about the bag to notice from the photo whether or not it is fake. But common sense tells me that unless the person stole the bag from an authorized YSL re-seller such as Saks, Neiman Marcus or Bergdorf Goodman or just likes to lose money on every transaction, then he bought a fake at a really low price and is selling it for way under retail. ALso, when the seller seems to know the brand of zipper and other things ... that makes me think he is used to selling lots of bags and knows the buzz words .....

I have only bought one designer bag on eBay and that was a few years ago. It was someone who had only sold a few bags and had several designer bags on sale that were her own bags, slightly used. That is the only type of seller I trust. I had that particular LV bag authenticated by Poupette for a small fee.

If you ask enough questions of the seller about where they got the bag, etc. it will become pretty obvious that it is fake. For example on one LV bag the lady said she bought it at a Junior League Bargain Box. So, she thought she had bought a bargain. The bag was an obvious fake but she didn't realize it and was selling it as real. She did remove the listing when I pointed out all the telltale signs that it was fake.

So, it is BUYER BEWARE on eBay for sure. I personally would never ever buy a designer bag being sold as "new" on eBay but would investigate further if it was something that was sold out everywhere and the seller was selling it above retail...

kbolles · Oct 21st, 2006, 07:11 PM

Hey Kallie...

you know your bags! Can you please comment on balenci.com? Is that a legit place to buy a muse? Seems to be a couple of hundred dollars less than Saks, etc. Can you tell I'm itching to place an online order?!

thanks!

susan-eric · Oct 22nd, 2006, 07:25 AM

I believe that they sell fakes. Wasn't there a wrangle with tpf a while back?

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Oct 20th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#122
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Oct 20th, 2006, 07:44 PM	#124
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! I couldn't really see the serial number or the embossed signature too clearly in the photos. I think it's a good sign that she sent them--but they're very blurry.
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Oct 20th, 2006, 10:37 PM	#125
Christiflora Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,225	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Thanks, susan-eric and Kallie Girl. Like you, I feel good about the seller and her bag. Now, I have to make the decision between going with the black or wait for my dream chocolate brown Muse. Yes, I'll stay away from the seller with the chocolate bag.
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Oct 20th, 2006, 11:59 PM	#126
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Hi all, this Muse has 35 min left in the auction. Any advice on if it's fake? eBay: Gorgeous YSL Yves Saint Laurent Oversized Muse L Black (item 190043217456 end time Oct-20-06 21:29:49 PDT)
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10

Oct 21st, 2006, 10:40 AM	#128
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! ^^I agree. Also, both of my Muses came in a white authenticity sleeve. The black authenticity sleeves seem to go with some of the other (earlier) styles. I'm not sure if they've switched colors, or if it's just the Muses that come in white sleeves because my other YSL bags with black sleeves were all earlier styles.
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790

Oct 21st, 2006, 12:07 PM	#129
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Thanks, Susan-eric and Kallie-girl. After reading the posts on this forum, I'm now pretty hesitant to use ebay at all. Its so hard to see quality over the internet, so waiting a few months and hording my salary to buy a retail Muse seems to be the best option. Sigh.
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10

Oct 21st, 2006, 03:42 PM	#130
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Balenci.com----is that website legitimate? They have the oversize muse for $995, which is the cheapest I've seen that at least seems like an authentic bag. Anyone know? Also, anyone know of other websites with the best prices? Saks has it for $1295. I have NEVER paid this much for a handbag. At least I've read enough from all your posts to think its worthwhile for this one... K
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10

Oct 21st, 2006, 03:53 PM	#131
Christiflora Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,225	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Dear Kellie-girl and susan-eric, Besides the black authenticity sleeves and the price, what are the telltale signs on this bag that suggest it is fake? BTW, what are the authenticity sleeves? Are they cards? ref eBay listing #190043217456 that expired.
Christiflora Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,225

Oct 21st, 2006, 04:11 PM	#132
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! ^^The sleeve contains a card. The serial number on the card should match the underside of the tag. That the serial number is not photographed would make me hesitant to purchase this. I didn't see any obvious signs of anything wrong, other than that the authenticity sleeve was the wrong color. But the stitching looks odd in the photograph and the parts which would be clear giveaways--the embossed signature on the outside, the serial number, the card content--were either not photographed or were photographed in a manner which wasn't clear. Sometimes people misplace cards and it doesn't mean anything. But to have the cards there and to not photograph the detail and then for their container to be the wrong color is weird.
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790

Oct 21st, 2006, 07:11 PM	#134
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! Hey Kallie... you know your bags! Can you please comment on balenci.com? Is that a legit place to buy a muse? Seems to be a couple of hundred dollars less than Saks, etc. Can you tell I'm itching to place an online order?! thanks!
kbolles Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 10

Oct 22nd, 2006, 07:25 AM	#135
susan-eric Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,790	Re: Authenticate This! YSL! I believe that they sell fakes. Wasn't there a wrangle with tpf a while back?
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