Woman Says Flu Shot Triggered Rare Disorder

[meela188]

I'm not actually sure about this woman's case but i do know that we learned in physiology that a small percentage of people who get vaccinated will experience short term paralysis. It's usually reversable and doesn't last more than a few months but it is still VERY scary.

[karmenzsofia]

We just had this discussion on another thread. There are people who get sick from the flu shot. The immune system is extremely complex, and what does nothing to person A can trigger something terrible in another.

[vbskull]

Its odd when I hear people say that they choose not to get vaccinations. I am in the military and you have to take whatever they want to inject you with. The flu mist supposedly contains a live virus. We are required to take a flu shot/mist every year. I agree that she just wants to have answers for what happened and the flu shot happens to be hers. It is sad that she is still young and her life is changed forever.

[Leah411]

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

We just had this discussion on another thread. There are people who get sick from the flu shot. The immune system is extremely complex, and what does nothing to person A can trigger something terrible in another.

I sometimes feel sick after a flu shot...BUT...this in no way means that the shot caused flu in me...as someone in another post maintains happens. I know plenty of people like myself, feel kind of crummy for a day after the shot, but they in no way have the flu.

I also heard some interesting stats the other day...don't remember the numbers...but if you take a population of people...a certain percentage of that population will die, have certain symptoms, etc. anyway. You can't immediately assume that if x symptom happens in a person who had a flu shot, that it was caused by said flu shot.

I was recently told that I probably have MS. (We're still testing). Now, if I had recently had a flu shot, there are those who would assume that the flu shot somehow "caused" by MS, when the reality is that the MS was going to happen anyway.

We don't know what caused this woman's symptoms. I saw a video of her the other day. If it is physiological in nature, I hope they can figure it out and relieve the symptoms.

[karmenzsofia]

I wasn't referring to feeling crappy after the shot or getting the flu from the flu shot, but to the shot triggering something that makes the person sick. I think ultimately it depends on each person's medical history and current health. The shot it's not for everyone, is what I'm saying.

[bag-mania]

Originally Posted by Leah411

I sometimes feel sick after a flu shot...BUT...this in no way means that the shot caused flu in me...as someone in another post maintains happens. I know plenty of people like myself, feel kind of crummy for a day after the shot, but they in no way have the flu. I also heard some interesting stats the other day...don't remember the numbers...but if you take a population of people...a certain percentage of that population will die, have certain symptoms, etc. anyway. You can't immediately assume that if x symptom happens in a person who had a flu shot, that it was caused by said flu shot. I was recently told that I probably have MS. (We're still testing). Now, if I had recently had a flu shot, there are those who would assume that the flu shot somehow "caused" by MS, when the reality is that the MS was going to happen anyway. We don't know what caused this woman's symptoms. I saw a video of her the other day. If it is physiological in nature, I hope they can figure it out and relieve the symptoms.

Exactly. I know more than one person who has told me, "I got a flu shot once and then I got sick!" Now they may have had a bad cold, a stomach virus, food poisoning, or any of a number of illnesses other than the single strain of influenza the annual shot is created for. They may not have become ill until a full month after the shot. It does not matter. "The flu shot made me sick!" Go figure.

Leah411, I hope you do not have MS. Feel better soon.

[sweetneet]

Originally Posted by Leah411

I sometimes feel sick after a flu shot...BUT...this in no way means that the shot caused flu in me...as someone in another post maintains happens. I know plenty of people like myself, feel kind of crummy for a day after the shot, but they in no way have the flu. I also heard some interesting stats the other day...don't remember the numbers...but if you take a population of people...a certain percentage of that population will die, have certain symptoms, etc. anyway. You can't immediately assume that if x symptom happens in a person who had a flu shot, that it was caused by said flu shot. I was recently told that I probably have MS. (We're still testing). Now, if I had recently had a flu shot, there are those who would assume that the flu shot somehow "caused" by MS, when the reality is that the MS was going to happen anyway. We don't know what caused this woman's symptoms. I saw a video of her the other day. If it is physiological in nature, I hope they can figure it out and relieve the symptoms.

well said.

i have a relative who first started having pain in her hands a few days after coming home from a camping trip, so she had been certain she had bitten by something and had some reaction to it which is what was causing her pain. however after many tests she found out she had rheumatoid arthritis (RA), and there was nothing she did that "caused it", it wasn't associated with her trip at all. so if she had happen to get a flu shot a few days before she starting, i guess she too could have put in the claim that it "caused" her RA, just like this woman did...even though they have no evidence to prove it.

statistically, if you do the math, a given number of people are going to end up with certain neurological disorders, and of course a percentage of those will have happend to have gotten flu shots or some other vaccines...that fact alone doesn't necessarily mean the flu shot triggered or caused it in any way. i mean, i'm sure a percentage of people who end up with neurological disorders, had happened to have eaten, say sushi in the few days before falling ill...does that mean we should correlate sushi-eating with the onset of neurological disorders?

btw-Leah411, hope you dont' have MS after all, good luck with all your testing!

[karmenzsofia]

I think that it's one thing to conclude that not everyone who gets sick after a flu shot got sick because of it, and another is to conclude that because not everyone who gets sick after a flu shot got sick because of it, it means that no one gets sick because of it. It just seems to me that the "just because it happened after the shot..." argument is constantly being used to invalidate any possibility of anyone getting sick, which, IMO, is taking it to the other extreme--no one vs. everyone. I think that assumption is as inaccurate as assuming that everyone gets sick after the shot. Yikes, I hope that makes sense!

[surferchick2]

Makes a lot of sense. I just had to read it a few times.

Im sure not everyone who gets sick after a flu shot can attribute it to the vaccine, although in some of those cases it can. Even a doctor warned us about possible symptoms, and the CDC even states that on rare occasions, it can cause serious problems (primarily allergic reactions). I won't rule it in, but I won't rule her suspicions out completely either. At this point, the probability may not be there since it can be hereditary, but nothing has been confirmed.

[hotshot]

Lots to consider about whether to get the "flu shot" or not.

This is most unusual case and more info needs to surface before we can all

rule out whether to have the shot or not.

[surferchick2]

Here's an updated interview with her. Regardless of what caused it, what a terrible disease. I read that Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy has come forward to help her. I hope something can be done to make her life easier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh5F5...layer_embedded

[karmenzsofia]

Originally Posted by surferchick2

makes a lot of sense. I just had to read it a few times. sorry, sometimes i can't help twisting my mind like a pretzel... im sure not everyone who gets sick after a flu shot can attribute it to the vaccine, although in some of those cases it can. Even a doctor warned us about possible symptoms, and the cdc even states that on rare occasions, it can cause serious problems (primarily allergic reactions). i won't rule it in, but i won't rule her suspicions out completely either. At this point, the probability may not be there since it can be hereditary, but nothing has been confirmed.

ITA.

I also agree that whatever the cause, she's in terrible shape...poor woman.

[alliemia]

Originally Posted by bag-mania

This is a sad story, but there is no evidence provided that the shot caused her condition. It sounds like she was desperately looking for some reason why she got sick and the flu shot was the closest thing she could come up with. People develop diseases every day and I understand the "need to know why" but sometimes there isn't a clear explanation, like a flu shot.

i agree. and a lot of times, people just happen to get ill around 'flu season' time anyhow, and it is just a coincidence that they fall ill around the time they get a flu shot. then they blame it on the shot, not realizing you can't get it from the shot. also claiming to have 'stomach flu' from the flu shot. when flu is a respiratory illness.

i had my flu shot early in Oct and that same night, i got a bad sore throat and cough and was sick for a week. it was just a coincidence that i got sick the day i also got my flu shot. my kids had been coughing/ill for a week at that point, so i caught something, not a sickness from my flu shot.

i think this lady just wants a reason for her illness. it's merely a coincidence that she got ill around the time she got a flu shot. i mean, why not blame it on something she ate that day? or her shampoo she used that morning? it has to be a dead inactivated virus? it's grasping at straws really.

[alliemia]

Originally Posted by carousel eyes

I have to wonder if getting the flu shot in the grocery store was a mistake?

why would it be a mistake?

[omgsweet]

^Depending on which brand of shot she recieved, she could have had a reaction to any of these ingredients:

Other ingredients include: the viral proteins, egg proteins, gelatin, formaldehyde, polyethylene glycol p-isooctyphenyl ether, sucrose.

Other ingredients include: the viral proteins, sodium chloride, sodium phosphate, potassium phosphate, calcium, taurodeoxycholate, egg protein, 2 antibiotics, and beta-propiolactone.

Multidose bottle with ten doses WITH 25 mcg of mercury per dose.

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