Welcome to The Purse Forum.

omgsweet · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:41 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...wyer-vs-lawyer

karmenzsofia · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Yikes, I didn't know that the cops were called on Gloria kuz she came into the house and wouldn't live. I'm telling you, Gloria couldn't care less about those kids. This is all about money and power for her. Exposure = more clients and media attention = more money and power. I'm sick of her sticking her nose in everyone's business. She always has an ulterior motive wherever she shows up.

Jayne1 · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

I was just watching Dr. Phill and she described exactly what I thought was going on: that she had a bunch of strangers in her house, that they were calling the shots at the nursery, that some were undermining her as a mother, that they kept watching her like a hawk any time she picked up a baby, fed them, changed a diaper, just waiting for her to make a mistake, that the nannies kept her in the dark, would not communicate...that one of them said anyone could take one of the babies in her handbag... One of the AIW nurses is saying that she was concerned the kids would be abducted, so she called CPS. Give me a break. Any kid anywhere could get abducted.

I totally believe her. She has raised six kids. She knows how to hold, feed, change a baby, yet she's being treated like a total idiot because of what we understand to be a dumb choice to have so many kids. Again, I'm not defending her choice to have a ton of kids when she has next to no resources, but these are her kids--not Dr. Phil's, not Gloria's, not AIW's. Because of the media and Dr. Phil's intrusion here, people have taken what I think is an inappropriateownership of these kids. That's taking it too far, IMO. Nadya should not have to answer to any of these people, but they feel entitled and she feels threatened. And to this day, just now, she's still responding to them when she could easily say, "You know what? I'm done explaining myself..." and carry on with her nannies, volunteers, whatever. Honestly, who the f#ck does Gloria think she is?

If they were my kids, there's no way I would allow someone else to be calling the shots in my and their lives, not without a court order.

I believe she was uncomfortable in her own house, I wouldn't want even one stranger living in my house.

However, it was at the end of today's show, when the AIW lady (Linda?) finally had a chance to give her side and I found her to be absolutely, unequivocally believable when she said Nadya was out shopping more than she was in the nursery and that she fed the babies very rarely or did any of the other necessary duties.

Linda said that one of the rare times Nadya fed the babies was in front of the camera (I remember that video, saw it on-line) and that when the cameras stopped rolling, she handed the baby back to the caregiver and didn't even bother to burp the baby.

That comment said so much to me. Remember trying to get that burp out of your newborn? The baby would fuss until he/she burped? You're not finished feeding until you get that burp!

I said it from Day 1 -- Nadya did the fun stuff and her mother did every thing else... the drudgery!

karmenzsofia · Mar 25th, 2009, 04:59 PM

I just heard that, and that nurse was supA pissed...towards the end it looked like she was shaking a bit, and then Gloria jumped in. While I believe part of what she said, I think she's bitter...more angry at getting fired (remember, AIW pay these nurses good money for taking care of premies) than anything else.

She just said that as a nurse/nanny she's supposed to monitor child-parent interaction, how much time the mother spends with the kids, whether she tucks them into bed or not...I mean, based on what the nurse and Gloria said, anything but perfection from Nadya means neglect. You know what? If every parent in America were to be held to the standards these people are demanding of Nadya, 90% of them, and pretty much everyone I know, would have to be reported to CPS.

The sh#t's gonna keep hitting the fan for a while...

Jayne1 · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

I just heard that, and that nurse was supA pissed...towards the end it looked like she was shaking a bit, and then Gloria jumped in. While I believe part of what she said, I think she's bitter...more angry at getting fired (remember, AIW pay these nurses good money for taking care of premies) than anything else.

She just said that as a nurse/nanny she's supposed to monitor child-parent interaction, how much time the mother spends with the kids, whether she tucks them into bed or not..I mean, based on what the nurse and Gloria said, anything but perfection from Nadya means neglect. You know what? If every parent in America were to be held to the standards these people are demanding of Nadya, 90% of them, and pretty much everyone I know, would have to be reported to CPS.

The sh#t's gonna keep hitting the fan for a while...

^^ Good point. I know many women who had the baby and then hired someone to look after it. Many!! And those are just the ones in my neighbourhood. Look at half of Hollywood.

One other thing the AIW lady said... a few of the nannies hired by Nadya, couldn't speck English and some had not received the results of their TB tests before showing up for work.

She also said one of the nannies arm had that big bump that comes from testing positive for TB... they sent her home but not before the whole house was exposed to possible TB.

pmburk · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:03 PM

I think Nadya is insane, and I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She obviously has serious mental issues that she refuses to acknowledge, much less address. This is a woman who previously threatened to commit suicide in front of her children (taped 911 call) when one of her original 6 children went missing for a short time. I don't believe that she knows how to care for a child properly, and I don't believe she gives one iota about the welfare of her children - if she did, she wouldn't have had 14 of them with absolutely no resources of her own. The only thing Nadya has demonstrated is that she has a complete disregard for anyone except herself.

Regarding the fear of abduction, the nannies were concerned because of the number of people surrounding the house *all the time* and the fact that the home & location has been widely publicized. They have had 2 intruders in the home's backyard since Nadya brought the children home, resulting in 911 calls made by the nannies (not Nadya). I believe that's cause for concern, yes. If I had a houseful of babies and random people getting into my backyard, you can bet I'd be funneling some money into some heartier security! The nanny who made the handbag comment - she walked into the home without her ID. After she got in with no problem, she brought it up and said that anyone could come in and walk out with one of the babies in her handbag. She was trying to illustrate that there's a safety & security issue that needed to be addressed, not indicating that the nannies planned to steal babies in their purses. The nannies tried to explain that Nadya needed to spend some money on home security *for the sake of her children.* The spying fears are textbook paranoia. Nurses have a responsibility to the welfare of the children and to report any situation which may endanger the children's welfare. Nadya's solution - fire them.

I just wish she'd get herself some actual help instead of dropping $1K on MAC and $1500 on Bebe clothing. I hope, for the children's sake, that she does get some help.

Jayne1 · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:09 PM

By the way, even Dr $hil sees the writing on the wall and is taking a huge step back from this. He said so on today's show.

It's obvious that she will be a huge PR nightmare for him. What were you thinking Phil? I could have told you that!

karmenzsofia · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jayne1

^^ Good point. I know many women who had the baby and then hired someone to look after it. Many!! And those are just the ones in my neighbourhood. Look at half of Hollywood.

One other thing the AIW lady said... a few of the nannies hired by Nadya, couldn't speck English and some had not received the results of their TB tests before showing up for work.

She also said one of the nannies arm had that big bump that comes from testing positive for TB... they sent her home but not before the whole house was exposed to possible TB.

Yeah, the TB thing is big. I wonder is there are records of that...

karmenzsofia · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jayne1

By the way, even Dr $hil sees the writing on the wall and is taking a huge step back from this. He said so on today's show.

It's obvious that she will be a huge PR nightmare for him. What were you thinking Phil? I could have told you that!

Did you notice how many freakin times he mentioned "transparency"? Even as he pointed out (what, three times?) that he's told his staff to back off. Transparency means that those who are in the authority to do anything about a situation are kept informed about every aspect of the situation. So, who is he talking about when he stresses transparency? AIW, Gloria, himself...or CPS and the state?

Did you see the previews for tomorrow's show? Gloria gets up and throws a punch in the air accusing Nadya's lawyer of punching a wall in the house. Yikes~

guccimamma · Mar 25th, 2009, 05:28 PM

i don't imagine kaiser gave her a tummy tuck, they are a no frills kind of medical facility

she probably has one hell of a compression garment on that stomach

Jayne1 · Mar 25th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by karmenzsofia

Did you see the previews for tomorrow's show? Gloria gets up and throws a punch in the air accusing Nadya's lawyer of punching a wall in the house. Yikes~

Tomorrow's show is going to be much more interesting that today's show.

Originally Posted by guccimamma

i don't imagine kaiser gave her a tummy tuck, they are a no frills kind of medical facility

she probably has one hell of a compression garment on that stomach

You're probably right, although I never thought Kaiser gave her the tummy tuck.

She obviously has her own cosmetic surgeon, so I thought it might be possible that she called him up, told him to be there after she gave birth and paid for it herself.

I read that women have their surgeons on hand for TT after birth, although I think it's not the right time... women still do it.

Hally · Mar 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM

I personally wanted to tape Jeff Czech? (Nadya's lawyer's) mouth closed. I wanted to be able to hear what G. Allred and the other woman had to say. Can you imagine being in the same room with him and Nadya? No wonder Dr. Phil told Nadya to stay home.

divadivine682 · Mar 25th, 2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hally

I personally wanted to tape Jeff Czech? (Nadya's lawyer's) mouth closed. I wanted to be able to hear what G. Allred and the other woman had to say. Can you imagine being in the same room with him and Nadya? No wonder Dr. Phil told Nadya to stay home.

AGREED!!! LOL

PinkSuadeSoho · Mar 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM

[quote=pmburk;10334359]I think Nadya is insane, and I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She obviously has serious mental issues that she refuses to acknowledge, much less address. This is a woman who previously threatened to commit suicide in front of her children (taped 911 call) I argued this point a while back, as I highly doubt Nadya was meaning it in the literal sense, she was frantic as I would have been as well. There are plenty of times where we don't use word choices correctly and are used out of context. when one of her original 6 children went missing for a short time. I don't believe that she knows how to care for a child properly, and I don't believe she gives one iota about the welfare of her children - if she did, she wouldn't have had 14 of them with absolutely no resources of her own. I think she does care for them. I also believe Nadya needs help mentally. The only thing Nadya has demonstrated is that she has a complete disregard for anyone except herself.

pmburk · Mar 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM

I see what you are saying, PinkSuedeSoho, but really - who says (repeatedly) that they're going to commit suicide *in front of their other children* - even in panic mode? I don't even have children and that's not something that would ever cross my mind or come out of my mouth. Those statements demonstrate yet again Nadya putting her own needs/wants in front of those of her children. IMHO I don't think a statement such as that can be construed as just a poor choice of words in a frantic moment.

I don't know what her issues are, but she definitely needs mental help and I really wish she would get it instead of running around buying makeup and clothes and doing talk shows all the time.

Mar 25th, 2009, 04:41 PM	#31
omgsweet omg...cute bag!! Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Scottsdale, Az Posts: 2,963	http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...wyer-vs-lawyer
	__________________ How to invest for 2009 and Beyond Protect Yourself Against Institutional Traders

Mar 25th, 2009, 04:45 PM	#32
karmenzsofia Life is Plan Z Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Tarot Card Posts: 14,888	Yikes, I didn't know that the cops were called on Gloria kuz she came into the house and wouldn't live. I'm telling you, Gloria couldn't care less about those kids. This is all about money and power for her. Exposure = more clients and media attention = more money and power. I'm sick of her sticking her nose in everyone's business. She always has an ulterior motive wherever she shows up.
	__________________ Satisfied but wishing 4 a WTM Mini and an AP ~~* Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it necessary? Is it kind? Or, more importantly, is it funny?

Mar 25th, 2009, 04:59 PM	#34
karmenzsofia Life is Plan Z Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Tarot Card Posts: 14,888	I just heard that, and that nurse was supA pissed...towards the end it looked like she was shaking a bit, and then Gloria jumped in. While I believe part of what she said, I think she's bitter...more angry at getting fired (remember, AIW pay these nurses good money for taking care of premies) than anything else. She just said that as a nurse/nanny she's supposed to monitor child-parent interaction, how much time the mother spends with the kids, whether she tucks them into bed or not...I mean, based on what the nurse and Gloria said, anything but perfection from Nadya means neglect. You know what? If every parent in America were to be held to the standards these people are demanding of Nadya, 90% of them, and pretty much everyone I know, would have to be reported to CPS. The sh#t's gonna keep hitting the fan for a while...
	__________________ Satisfied but wishing 4 a WTM Mini and an AP ~~* Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it necessary? Is it kind? Or, more importantly, is it funny?

Mar 25th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#36
pmburk Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 441	I think Nadya is insane, and I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She obviously has serious mental issues that she refuses to acknowledge, much less address. This is a woman who previously threatened to commit suicide in front of her children (taped 911 call) when one of her original 6 children went missing for a short time. I don't believe that she knows how to care for a child properly, and I don't believe she gives one iota about the welfare of her children - if she did, she wouldn't have had 14 of them with absolutely no resources of her own. The only thing Nadya has demonstrated is that she has a complete disregard for anyone except herself. Regarding the fear of abduction, the nannies were concerned because of the number of people surrounding the house all the time and the fact that the home & location has been widely publicized. They have had 2 intruders in the home's backyard since Nadya brought the children home, resulting in 911 calls made by the nannies (not Nadya). I believe that's cause for concern, yes. If I had a houseful of babies and random people getting into my backyard, you can bet I'd be funneling some money into some heartier security! The nanny who made the handbag comment - she walked into the home without her ID. After she got in with no problem, she brought it up and said that anyone could come in and walk out with one of the babies in her handbag. She was trying to illustrate that there's a safety & security issue that needed to be addressed, not indicating that the nannies planned to steal babies in their purses. The nannies tried to explain that Nadya needed to spend some money on home security for the sake of her children. The spying fears are textbook paranoia. Nurses have a responsibility to the welfare of the children and to report any situation which may endanger the children's welfare. Nadya's solution - fire them. I just wish she'd get herself some actual help instead of dropping $1K on MAC and $1500 on Bebe clothing. I hope, for the children's sake, that she does get some help.
	Last edited by pmburk; Mar 25th, 2009 at 05:19 PM.

Mar 25th, 2009, 05:28 PM	#40
guccimamma guccimamma Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Wooo Hooo! Posts: 4,231	i don't imagine kaiser gave her a tummy tuck, they are a no frills kind of medical facility she probably has one hell of a compression garment on that stomach
	__________________ "is it too early for a cocktail?"

Mar 25th, 2009, 05:09 PM	#37
Jayne1 Working Canvas Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,971	By the way, even Dr $hil sees the writing on the wall and is taking a huge step back from this. He said so on today's show. It's obvious that she will be a huge PR nightmare for him. What were you thinking Phil? I could have told you that!

Mar 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM	#42
Hally Member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 375	I personally wanted to tape Jeff Czech? (Nadya's lawyer's) mouth closed. I wanted to be able to hear what G. Allred and the other woman had to say. Can you imagine being in the same room with him and Nadya? No wonder Dr. Phil told Nadya to stay home.
Hally Member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 375

Mar 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM	#44
PinkSuadeSoho I can't wait, Can U? Joined: Jul 2006 Location: British Properties,Beautiful By Nature! Spectacular by SIGHT! :) Posts: 5,154	[quote=pmburk;10334359]I think Nadya is insane, and I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She obviously has serious mental issues that she refuses to acknowledge, much less address. This is a woman who previously threatened to commit suicide in front of her children (taped 911 call) I argued this point a while back, as I highly doubt Nadya was meaning it in the literal sense, she was frantic as I would have been as well. There are plenty of times where we don't use word choices correctly and are used out of context. when one of her original 6 children went missing for a short time. I don't believe that she knows how to care for a child properly, and I don't believe she gives one iota about the welfare of her children - if she did, she wouldn't have had 14 of them with absolutely no resources of her own. I think she does care for them. I also believe Nadya needs help mentally. The only thing Nadya has demonstrated is that she has a complete disregard for anyone except herself.
	__________________ Chanel is an institution, and you have to treat an institution like a whore – and then you get something out of her. -Karl Lagerfeld Follow Karl Lagerfeld on twitter http://twitter.com/Karl_Lagerfeld

Mar 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM	#45
pmburk Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 441	I see what you are saying, PinkSuedeSoho, but really - who says (repeatedly) that they're going to commit suicide in front of their other children - even in panic mode? I don't even have children and that's not something that would ever cross my mind or come out of my mouth. Those statements demonstrate yet again Nadya putting her own needs/wants in front of those of her children. IMHO I don't think a statement such as that can be construed as just a poor choice of words in a frantic moment. I don't know what her issues are, but she definitely needs mental help and I really wish she would get it instead of running around buying makeup and clothes and doing talk shows all the time.

Welcome to The Purse Forum.

Our Purse Forum, or TPF, is the #1 online social network for everything designer handbag related. Join over 200,000 enthusiastic members in this friendly community and start engaging in the discussion today.