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ocgirl · Jun 17th, 2009, 05:06 PM

http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/28/o...tient-lingers/

Oklahoma cop pulls ambulance over; puts EMT in chokehold while patient lingers

By Carlos Miller
An Oklahoma State Trooper pulled over an ambulance on its way to the hospital Sunday, resulting in the police officer placing a chokehold on a paramedic as a patient lingered in the back.
It was all caught on video by the patient’s son, who was following in another car.
The officer was apparently upset that the ambulance did not yield for him.
However, it is evident that the ambulance had a real emergency on its hands, unlike the cop, who had been speeding towards some incident he was able to resolve in minutes, enabling him to refocus his attention on the ambulance.
The incident marks the second time this year that a police officer pulled a vehicle over as it was clearly on its way to a hospital for an emergency.
Paramedics say they were rushing a woman to the hospital who had suffered heat exhaustion when they noticed the trooper traveling at a high rate of speed behind them. They say the trooper had its emergency lights on but had its sirens off.
The driver of the ambulance did not notice the trooper until it got right behind him. He pulled over allowing it to pass.
Through his microphone, the officer allegedly said, “You should consider checking your rearview mirrors.”
The driver of the ambulance said he responded by lifting his hands in bewilderment.
Three blocks later, the trooper was seen pulling out of a side street - apparently having addressed his emergency or having picked up a female passenger - and pulled the ambulance over.
At first, paramedics thought the woman in the passenger side was having an emergency.
According to the paramedic’s transport incident report:

The officer got out of his vehicle in a state of rage. He approached my partner and yelled, “Get your ass back here. I am giving you a ticket for failure to yield.”
He also added, “What do you mean flipping me off?”

The trooper wanted to cite the driver of the ambulance but the other paramedic insisted on driving the patient to the hospital first, then allowing the driver to be cited.
The trooper then told the second paramedic that he was under arrest for obstruction and attempted to grab the paramedic’s arm.
But the paramedic reminded him that it was a felony to assault a paramedic in the line of duty, especially when he needs to transport a patient to the hospital.
They struggled briefly before the paramedic was able to hop in the back of the ambulance to tend to the patient.
By that time, another trooper had pulled up and started banging on the side of the ambulance, telling the paramedic that he was under arrest for assault.
The paramedic stepped out of the vehicle and another struggle ensued - this one caught on tape - which resulted in a cop grabbing the paramedic in a vise-like-grip around his neck.
The officers finally allowed the paramedics to transport the patient to the hospital where they planned to arrest the paramedic.
But then they finally got smart and contacted the district attorney, who insisted on reviewing the evidence before filing charges.
Police say they have their own version of the truth that was recorded by their dashboard cam. Of course they are refusing to release it.
At one point in the hospital, the trooper told the paramedic that he was so enraged about the perceived “flipping off” gesture that he considered pulling his gun out and using deadly force, according to the paramedic’s transport report.

ocgirl · Jun 17th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Police Dash Cam of same incident:

goodmornin · Jun 17th, 2009, 05:19 PM

WTF

There are seriously too many power hungry jerks out there who are supposedly out to "protect" us.

ocgirl · Jun 17th, 2009, 05:20 PM

I'm not really into suing, but if I were the family of the patient in the ambulance, I'd sue the police department. At least to get that trooper fired.

KarraAnn · Jun 17th, 2009, 10:38 PM

WOW!! Just terrible, that trooper was completely out of line.

Lvbabydoll · Jun 17th, 2009, 10:55 PM

I saw this the other day, it's insane.
I heard on a news report (my local news) that apparently the ambulance didn't have its emergency lights/sirens on (some drivers request the sirens to be off so as not to scare or stress out the patients any more), so because of that, he needed to yield to the cop.
And apparently the ambulance driver had given the cop the middle finger as he was going by and that was even further reason for the cop to pull the ambulance over.

I'm sensing a huge lawsuit here...

HauteMama · Jun 17th, 2009, 10:57 PM

Totally inappropriate that the EMT had to remind the trooper about the law. Isn't it obvious that the patient must come first? I guess not to the police. I hope they take this guy's badge.

rainedrop1019 · Jun 17th, 2009, 11:05 PM

There are a lot of people who shouldn't be in a position of power and the cop is one of them.

BagAngel · Jun 17th, 2009, 11:13 PM

Power trip! Shocking!

sooner_girl20 · Jun 18th, 2009, 12:23 AM

yeah this is big news in my hometown as the paramedic is from a small town about ten minutes away. It is crazy! They had a big story in our local paper and it was a lot of "he said, he said". They both said the other was the aggressor and whatnot. It's just ridiculous!

Megs · Jun 18th, 2009, 12:40 AM

That is CRAZY!

Shouldn't that be resolved after the patient is cared for? I mean even in the parking lot of the hospital??

I am sure there is a ton of he said he said - but that cop was really ridiculous, it is scary.

gloss_gal · Jun 18th, 2009, 01:05 AM

Lawsuit! I am not for lawsuits but the patients health was compromised. The paramedic was completely correct to remind the ego-tripping police officer of the law. There is no crime in flipping off a police officer. May not be the smartest thing to do but no reason to chase down a ambulance and attempt to arrest the officers. The first post shows it all. Sorry to the Sooners and I am sure this behavior is not a indication of entire state. Oklahoma has never been a state I cared to visit. Up there with Mississippi. We have come a long way but we are not there yet. The cop should be fired.

sooner_girl20 · Jun 18th, 2009, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Megs

That is CRAZY!

Shouldn't that be resolved after the patient is cared for? I mean even in the parking lot of the hospital??

I am sure there is a ton of he said he said - but that cop was really ridiculous, it is scary.

Oh I know! He was totally out of line. In the paper his report made it sound like he drove behind the ambulance for eons before he finally passed. After watching the video I was totally shocked because he was back there for literally 5 seconds before passing. There was also a car on the shoulder so the ambulance couldn't pull over right then and the trooper didn't even give them any time after that he just blew on by.

sooner_girl20 · Jun 18th, 2009, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by gloss_gal

Lawsuit! I am not for lawsuits but the patients health was compromised. The paramedic was completely correct to remind the ego-tripping police officer of the law. There is no crime in flipping off a police officer. May not be the smartest thing to do but no reason to chase down a ambulance and attempt to arrest the officers. The first post shows it all. Sorry to the Sooners and I am sure this behavior is not a indication of entire state. Oklahoma has never been a state I cared to visit. Up there with Mississippi. We have come a long way but we are not there yet. The cop should be fired.

Trust me, this behavior is not a indication of the entire state. Stupid, ridiculous things like this happen in every state. I believe the trooper is on paid leave. He needs to get nothing but the boot.

You don't know what you're missing! Oklahoma is great!

sooner_girl20 · Jun 18th, 2009, 01:18 AM

Also wanted to add, the paramedic said he didn't flip off the trooper. He said he held his hands up in suprise like "what did I do?". the trooper said he flipped him off. so who knows?

Jun 17th, 2009, 05:06 PM	#1
ocgirl OP Member Joined: May 2006 Location: OC, California, USA Posts: 2,848	Oklahoma cop pulls ambulance over http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/28/o...tient-lingers/ Oklahoma cop pulls ambulance over; puts EMT in chokehold while patient lingers By Carlos Miller An Oklahoma State Trooper pulled over an ambulance on its way to the hospital Sunday, resulting in the police officer placing a chokehold on a paramedic as a patient lingered in the back. It was all caught on video by the patient’s son, who was following in another car. The officer was apparently upset that the ambulance did not yield for him. However, it is evident that the ambulance had a real emergency on its hands, unlike the cop, who had been speeding towards some incident he was able to resolve in minutes, enabling him to refocus his attention on the ambulance. The incident marks the second time this year that a police officer pulled a vehicle over as it was clearly on its way to a hospital for an emergency. Paramedics say they were rushing a woman to the hospital who had suffered heat exhaustion when they noticed the trooper traveling at a high rate of speed behind them. They say the trooper had its emergency lights on but had its sirens off. The driver of the ambulance did not notice the trooper until it got right behind him. He pulled over allowing it to pass. Through his microphone, the officer allegedly said, “You should consider checking your rearview mirrors.” The driver of the ambulance said he responded by lifting his hands in bewilderment. Three blocks later, the trooper was seen pulling out of a side street - apparently having addressed his emergency or having picked up a female passenger - and pulled the ambulance over. At first, paramedics thought the woman in the passenger side was having an emergency. According to the paramedic’s transport incident report: The officer got out of his vehicle in a state of rage. He approached my partner and yelled, “Get your ass back here. I am giving you a ticket for failure to yield.” He also added, “What do you mean flipping me off?” The trooper wanted to cite the driver of the ambulance but the other paramedic insisted on driving the patient to the hospital first, then allowing the driver to be cited. The trooper then told the second paramedic that he was under arrest for obstruction and attempted to grab the paramedic’s arm. But the paramedic reminded him that it was a felony to assault a paramedic in the line of duty, especially when he needs to transport a patient to the hospital. They struggled briefly before the paramedic was able to hop in the back of the ambulance to tend to the patient. By that time, another trooper had pulled up and started banging on the side of the ambulance, telling the paramedic that he was under arrest for assault. The paramedic stepped out of the vehicle and another struggle ensued - this one caught on tape - which resulted in a cop grabbing the paramedic in a vise-like-grip around his neck. The officers finally allowed the paramedics to transport the patient to the hospital where they planned to arrest the paramedic. But then they finally got smart and contacted the district attorney, who insisted on reviewing the evidence before filing charges. Police say they have their own version of the truth that was recorded by their dashboard cam. Of course they are refusing to release it. At one point in the hospital, the trooper told the paramedic that he was so enraged about the perceived “flipping off” gesture that he considered pulling his gun out and using deadly force, according to the paramedic’s transport report.

Jun 17th, 2009, 05:19 PM	#3
goodmornin yanko Joined: May 2006 Location: San Francisco! Posts: 2,264	WTF There are seriously too many power hungry jerks out there who are supposedly out to "protect" us.
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Jun 17th, 2009, 10:38 PM	#5
KarraAnn Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 316	WOW!! Just terrible, that trooper was completely out of line.
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Jun 17th, 2009, 10:55 PM	#6
Lvbabydoll ♥'s Cupcakes Joined: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 42,343	I saw this the other day, it's insane. I heard on a news report (my local news) that apparently the ambulance didn't have its emergency lights/sirens on (some drivers request the sirens to be off so as not to scare or stress out the patients any more), so because of that, he needed to yield to the cop. And apparently the ambulance driver had given the cop the middle finger as he was going by and that was even further reason for the cop to pull the ambulance over. I'm sensing a huge lawsuit here...
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Jun 17th, 2009, 10:57 PM	#7
HauteMama Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,760	Totally inappropriate that the EMT had to remind the trooper about the law. Isn't it obvious that the patient must come first? I guess not to the police. I hope they take this guy's badge.
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Jun 17th, 2009, 05:16 PM	#2
ocgirl OP Member Joined: May 2006 Location: OC, California, USA Posts: 2,848	Police Dash Cam of same incident:

Jun 17th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#4
ocgirl OP Member Joined: May 2006 Location: OC, California, USA Posts: 2,848	I'm not really into suing, but if I were the family of the patient in the ambulance, I'd sue the police department. At least to get that trooper fired.

Jun 17th, 2009, 11:05 PM	#8
rainedrop1019 To buy or not to buy Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 913	There are a lot of people who shouldn't be in a position of power and the cop is one of them.

Jun 17th, 2009, 11:13 PM	#9
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Jun 18th, 2009, 12:23 AM	#10
sooner_girl20 Member Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Sooner Land Posts: 1,047	yeah this is big news in my hometown as the paramedic is from a small town about ten minutes away. It is crazy! They had a big story in our local paper and it was a lot of "he said, he said". They both said the other was the aggressor and whatnot. It's just ridiculous!

Jun 18th, 2009, 12:40 AM	#11
Megs Administrator Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 26,685	That is CRAZY! Shouldn't that be resolved after the patient is cared for? I mean even in the parking lot of the hospital?? I am sure there is a ton of he said he said - but that cop was really ridiculous, it is scary.
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Jun 18th, 2009, 01:05 AM	#12
gloss_gal Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,897	Lawsuit! I am not for lawsuits but the patients health was compromised. The paramedic was completely correct to remind the ego-tripping police officer of the law. There is no crime in flipping off a police officer. May not be the smartest thing to do but no reason to chase down a ambulance and attempt to arrest the officers. The first post shows it all. Sorry to the Sooners and I am sure this behavior is not a indication of entire state. Oklahoma has never been a state I cared to visit. Up there with Mississippi. We have come a long way but we are not there yet. The cop should be fired.
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Jun 18th, 2009, 01:18 AM	#15
sooner_girl20 Member Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Sooner Land Posts: 1,047	Also wanted to add, the paramedic said he didn't flip off the trooper. He said he held his hands up in suprise like "what did I do?". the trooper said he flipped him off. so who knows?

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