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dreamdoll · Jun 27th, 2009, 09:13 AM

Wow madness!

ayla · Jun 27th, 2009, 09:52 AM

Ridiculous !

And about the dashboard cam - this evidence should be released, ESPECIALLY if charges are going to be laid. It's only fair if this thing is going to go to trial !

exotikittenx · Jun 27th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Wow. What a JERK!

ilovepinkhearts · Jun 28th, 2009, 09:45 PM

yup...power hungry jerk! it's ridiculous what people have to do to feel better about themselves. and to put that woman's life at risk?? WOW!

and about him blowing that stop sign...he is a cop he can, just like he can shoot an unarmed person, and pull over ambulances.

natalie78 · Jun 29th, 2009, 01:30 PM

I saw the dashboard cam video. I'm on the officer's side. You cannot judge the officer until you are in his position. I have been in that type of situation...it's not fun to have others judging your reaction days after it has happened when they were not there and have no point of reference of their own.

katlun · Jul 4th, 2009, 05:28 PM

you would think the police would help the ambulance not hinder it

kate83675 · Jul 4th, 2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by ilovepinkhearts

and about him blowing that stop sign...he is a cop he can, just like he can shoot an unarmed person, and pull over ambulances.

Apparently the police are hired to enforce the law not to obey it.

vbskull · Jul 6th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by natalie78

I saw the dashboard cam video. I'm on the officer's side. You cannot judge the officer until you are in his position. I have been in that type of situation...it's not fun to have others judging your reaction days after it has happened when they were not there and have no point of reference of their own.

I thought that I was the only person that thought the officer wasn't totally in the wrong. I mean how should he know if they had a patient if they have no lights or sirens on. The cop has his lights on the whole time so when he got that close to the ambulance and they still didn't pull over. Then pulled onto the left to pass a car blocking the way for the cop. Why did the back paramedic have to jump out and get in the police officers face? Then he is surrounded by a bunch of random people. I know that racism is still around but why does it always have to be about race. I'd hate to be a white police officer in the south because anytime you pulled someone over of another color it is racist. I do think that it could have been handled different and hope the woman in the back was ok. Everyone did stuff wrong in this situation and I just think it sucks that all the blame is on the cop. Just my opinion though, not to offend anyone.

sooner_girl20 · Jul 7th, 2009, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by vbskull

I thought that I was the only person that thought the officer wasn't totally in the wrong. I mean how should he know if they had a patient if they have no lights or sirens on. The cop has his lights on the whole time so when he got that close to the ambulance and they still didn't pull over. Then pulled onto the left to pass a car blocking the way for the cop. Why did the back paramedic have to jump out and get in the police officers face? Then he is surrounded by a bunch of random people. I know that racism is still around but why does it always have to be about race. I'd hate to be a white police officer in theracist. I do think that it could have been handled different and hope the woman south because anytime you pulled someone over of another color it is in the back was ok. Everyone did stuff wrong in this situation and I just think it sucks that all the blame is on the cop. Just my opinion though, not to offend anyone.

Well as soon as he realized there was a patient in the back he should had let them go on to the hospital, not keep holding them up. They could have resolved whatever conflict they had after the patient had been dropped off at the hospital.

From what I could tell there was not a lot of room on the road for the ambulance to continue driving on the right side of the road while passing that car on the shoulder. What was the driver supposed to do, side swipe the car on the side of the road so the trooper could pass and cause another accident? To me it didn't look like the ambulance even had time to attempt to pull over because of the car parked on the shoulder, and because the trooper blew by them immediately after passing the car on the shoulder. Who's to say that the ambulance would not have pulled over after passing that car? The trooper didn't give them enough time to do anything IMO.

I'm guessing the guy got out of the back of the ambulance because he was frustrated because they got pulled over for no reason and had to transport someone to the hospital? I'd be pretty PO'd too. And he wasn't surrounded by a bunch of random people, they were the family of the person being transported to the hospital. You better believe I would be out of the car asking questions and wondering why my mother wasn't being taken to the hospital. I'm sure there was a lot of confusion on the family's part.

I think the trooper was definitely in the wrong in this situation. Also, why was the troopers wife in his squad car anyway? That is very bizarre to me.... This news has fell off the radar around my town, I wonder what has happened in the investigation?

sooner_girl20 · Jul 7th, 2009, 02:35 AM

About the "wife" comment, I haven't heard about this on the big news, just around the local area. I have heard from reliable sources (this happened around my hometown and the paramedic is practically from my town) that said that the trooper's wife was sitting in the front seat and turned off the dash cam after about ten minutes. That doesn't make it true, but I will tend to believe a Oklahoma Trooper who works with and knows these people. I have also heard it from several different law enforcement relatives who also work with these people. Just wanted to clarify on my previous post.

chloe777 · Jul 7th, 2009, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by vbskull

I thought that I was the only person that thought the officer wasn't totally in the wrong. I mean how should he know if they had a patient if they have no lights or sirens on. The cop has his lights on the whole time so when he got that close to the ambulance and they still didn't pull over. Then pulled onto the left to pass a car blocking the way for the cop. Why did the back paramedic have to jump out and get in the police officers face? Then he is surrounded by a bunch of random people. I know that racism is still around but why does it always have to be about race. I'd hate to be a white police officer in the south because anytime you pulled someone over of another color it is racist. I do think that it could have been handled different and hope the woman in the back was ok. Everyone did stuff wrong in this situation and I just think it sucks that all the blame is on the cop. Just my opinion though, not to offend anyone.

I live in Louisiana and this is the case 90% of the time. Perfect example..... my husband is from another race and a white cop pulled him over a few days after we bought our car. We have a nice car and I guess the office thought because he was from a different race that he could not afford the car so he gave him some bogus ticket about not having his lights on, then walks to the front of the car and says "oh I didn't know you had daytime running lights hahaha oh well to late now here is your ticket". The ticket cost us $128 because the jerk cop thought he would be funny. So yes this kind of thing does happen.

natalie78 · Jul 7th, 2009, 09:07 AM

wow...the thread took an ugly turn with that last post.

Anywho. To the trooper, the patient's family was "a bunch of random people." And I hate the whole "I heard from someone who knows this person or that person" and "I know someone who knows someone." Blah, blah, blah. Unless you talk TO THE TROOPER INVOLVED, don't think you know what happened.

chloe777 · Jul 7th, 2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by natalie78

wow...the thread took an ugly turn with that last post.

Anywho. To the trooper, the patient's family was "a bunch of random people." And I hate the whole "I heard from someone who knows this person or that person" and "I know someone who knows someone." Blah, blah, blah. Unless you talk TO THE TROOPER INVOLVED, don't think you know what happened.

I was not trying to make the tread turn ugly. I was just stating what happened to him(us). I'm sorry to say but this sort of thing does happen to people of another race, class, sexual orientation, ect ect. Police offers, troopers ect that are in power will target a certain group that they do not like or agree with and will make it difficult for those people to live and not be scared.

If you have never had a problem with someone treating you bad or different than you are lucky and if you are a cop/trooper yourself and treat everyone fairly then kudos to you.

Roo · Jul 7th, 2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by natalie78

wow...the thread took an ugly turn with that last post.

Anywho. To the trooper, the patient's family was "a bunch of random people." And I hate the whole "I heard from someone who knows this person or that person" and "I know someone who knows someone." Blah, blah, blah. Unless you talk TO THE TROOPER INVOLVED, don't think you know what happened.

I don't think there is anything wrong with chloe's post. She was simply relating a personal experience she had.

I think we need to be respectful of other people's experiences with law enforcement and understand that they are not always positive.

sooner_girl20 · Jul 7th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by natalie78

wow...the thread took an ugly turn with that last post.

Anywho. To the trooper, the patient's family was "a bunch of random people." And I hate the whole "I heard from someone who knows this person or that person" and "I know someone who knows someone." Blah, blah, blah. Unless you talk TO THE TROOPER INVOLVED, don't think you know what happened.

As I already stated in my post, about what I heard, "That doesn't make it true"....I didn't say say it was a 100% true, but that I've heard a lot of different people saying the same thing. People who knew the trooper personally. I know that that doesn't make it true. But, just like you did, I heard that and formed my own opinions. No big deal. But watching the dash-cam video, at about 1:30 it sounds like a door opened and I heard what sounds like a woman's voice so that makes it even more suspicious to me. But who really knows?

About the random people.. If he would have let them go immediately after finding out there was a patient he never would have had to deal with all the confused family members. They would have stayed in their car and gone on to the hospital. They never should have had to get out of the car in the first place.

Anyway, what I find to be disturbing is that after the trooper went to his "emergency" that lasted a total of 30 seconds, he goes looking for the ambulance. To what, teach them a lesson? He could have let the whole incident go, but instead he decides to catch up to them. And I failed to see what they did wrong in the first place. He sounds like a hothead who I would be scared to know had a gun and was a law enforcement figure. That's just my opinion though.

chloe777, the areas surrounding my town are exactly like you described. Exactly. It is pretty sad. I'm sorry that happened to you! Is there any way you can fight the ticket? And I totally agree with your last post!

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Jun 28th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#34
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Jul 4th, 2009, 05:28 PM	#36
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Jun 29th, 2009, 01:30 PM	#35
natalie78 Dave's not here Joined: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,654	I saw the dashboard cam video. I'm on the officer's side. You cannot judge the officer until you are in his position. I have been in that type of situation...it's not fun to have others judging your reaction days after it has happened when they were not there and have no point of reference of their own.

Jul 7th, 2009, 02:35 AM	#40
sooner_girl20 Member Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Sooner Land Posts: 1,047	About the "wife" comment, I haven't heard about this on the big news, just around the local area. I have heard from reliable sources (this happened around my hometown and the paramedic is practically from my town) that said that the trooper's wife was sitting in the front seat and turned off the dash cam after about ten minutes. That doesn't make it true, but I will tend to believe a Oklahoma Trooper who works with and knows these people. I have also heard it from several different law enforcement relatives who also work with these people. Just wanted to clarify on my previous post.

Jul 7th, 2009, 09:07 AM	#42
natalie78 Dave's not here Joined: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,654	wow...the thread took an ugly turn with that last post. Anywho. To the trooper, the patient's family was "a bunch of random people." And I hate the whole "I heard from someone who knows this person or that person" and "I know someone who knows someone." Blah, blah, blah. Unless you talk TO THE TROOPER INVOLVED, don't think you know what happened.

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