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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Louiebabeee View Post
I dont understand why there are so many people saying she should have her a** kicked and be locked up. I know they are probly not seriously saying they would kick her a**, and they are just very angry but this girl is 12 and is doing this, she needs serious help. Something is obviously very wrong with her. I think serious actions should be taken for this, but her being put in jail would not do anything but make her worse.
No. I think she DOES need her butt kicked or at least been thrown in jail.

That firefighter that abused a puppy got his butt thrown in jail, why not this little girl? Because shes 12? Umm no. There are 12 year old's (even younger!) committing cold blooded murder, thats the next step for this little girl. Maybe if the parents did more than "grounding" her to begin with, it wouldnt have gotten this far. She knew exactly what she was doing. Im just sayin' Im a fan of kids being scared of their parents and what they would do "if" they did something wrong.

Just for clarification, Im not saying every parent should hit their kids, if the method you are using is WORKING, then by all means, continue it. But obviously a little grounding isnt doing ish for this kid. IMO, she needs a nice little whooping.
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by QueenOfDa702 View Post
No. I think she DOES need her butt kicked or at least been thrown in jail.

That firefighter that abused a puppy got his butt thrown in jail, why not this little girl? Because shes 12? Umm no. There are 12 year old's (even younger!) committing cold blooded murder, thats the next step for this little girl. Maybe if the parents did more than "grounding" her to begin with, it wouldnt have gotten this far. She knew exactly what she was doing. Im just sayin' Im a fan of kids being scared of their parents and what they would do "if" they did something wrong.

Just for clarification, Im not saying every parent should hit their kids, if the method you are using is WORKING, then by all means, continue it. But obviously a little grounding isnt doing ish for this kid. IMO, she needs a nice little whooping.


well I guess we just have differnt oppinions then. I do think becuse of her young age that she should not simply just be thrown in jail, it seems like she should be put in some kind of place that they know how to help children who do these kinds of things. I also dont see how her parents not grounding her enough would make her do something like this, I mean its very disturbing. It's insane how these young kids are doin these horrible things. I know some times it has to do with thier parents, but I think some times the child just hase serious issues. Its hard to figue out what goes on in peoples minds, especially children.
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 06:01 PM   #63
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will not watch it horrible horrible child!!
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #64
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These are the type of children that end of as sociopaths (spelling?). Anyone that can abuse an animal is SICK!
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #65
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These are the type of children that end of as sociopaths (spelling?). Anyone that can abuse an animal is SICK!
This is absolutely correct. Children who abuse animals absolutely can develop into sociopaths (also termed psychopaths in pop culture today). Sociopaths generally do not have a conscience, so physically punishing this child is not going to do anything. She needs to be removed from her home and treated in a hospital setting.
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #66
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I have a new puppy...can't watch the video...I'm crying...
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #67
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dude that video was disturbing, to say the least. and my first thought was, how the *$%% could the guy/girl who filmed all this had filmed for 13 minutes and done nothing to stop her???!! I guess the only excuse I see is if the person was disabled somehow. Yeah, they needed evidence, but it seems like you could have gotten that from just watching 30 seconds. if i saw this going on myself i would have had to go and put a stop to it.

Also, i am so sick sick sick SICK of how parents of children who do such horrendous things (e.g. torture animals, kill babies or toddlers, molest other kids, etc) act so #@$%ing surprised when they learn of that atrocities their child committed. They act like their child is such an effing saint, that they had NO IDEA they could do any of this. Yeah right. I'm sure the girl was torturing her cat at home and did other things like bully other kids, it's just her parents probably didn't bother to notice or care. And they are going to "ground her"?? They must be delusional.
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Old Apr 25th, 2009, 11:11 PM   #68
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I refuse to look at the video. Seriously as parents I think they are treating this rather lightly. It is obvious that the girl has a serious problem and being " grounded ' is not the answer. I feel sick. She has anger issues. I cant even comment anymore.
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Old Apr 26th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #69
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I wouldn't be suprised if the girl already gets the sh*t beaten out of her (or worse) by her father who was supposedly so shocked by her behavior.

I couldn't bring myself to watch the video. And seriously, wft with the guy who filmed it? wouldn't just a minute be enough proof?
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Old Apr 26th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #70
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Yeah, I know that the article is about a puppy. I was referring to the cat her father says she has at home.

ah yes, sorry I misread what you meant.

I do believe that if she abused the dog she is definitely doing it to the cat.
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Old Apr 26th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #71
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noticed that she was a little overweight maybe the kids at her school are mean to her and she takes her anger out on the puppy.

This was the first thing to come to my mind too. A chubby pre-teen who's repressed at school/home and takes it out on innocent animals. A lot of children come from homes where they're provided for in the material sense but not the emotional sense. I can see how a child with that upbringing can act out like that to release pent up rage.

I saw a lot of that type of behavior growing up as a kid in the 1970s -- just awful violent and sadistic behavior from neighborhood kids towards pets and other animals. One kid yanked a cat's tail so hard the cat lost all its bodily functions and the kids were all laughing; another whipped and yanked his dog mercilessly, etc.

The best thing the parents can do is spend more time talking to their daughter and helping her to love herself more so that she can love other people and animals. I do believe she's going thru a confused stage of early adolescence.
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Old Apr 27th, 2009, 10:22 AM   #72
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I can't bring myself to watch the video, but it sounds horrendous. She obviously has problems for whatever reason and she obviously needs help in order to find out why on earth she did what she did.

However, I find it very uncomfortable to read some of the comments here especially with regards to calling her a 'bi*ch' and that she deserves 'her ass kicked' - she may have been brutal, but I don't feel that she, a 12-year old girl, 'deserves' some of the stuff being suggested here (especially regarding physical violence towards her, I'm hoping a lot of it was just a turn of phrase used to voice disgust at her actions rather than actually getting the pitchforks out kind of thing).

I realize that her behaviour was extreme to say the least. She obviously needs help and it should be given to her.
exactly. some of these comments are cruel. one can demonstrate that they don't condone violence without perpetuating it as a means for "justice."

the girl is clearly mentally disturbed. she needs to be psychologically evaluated, and very likely, institutionalized. furthermore, we have no insight into her home life. would everyone be so quick to want to kick her a$$ if they later found out she was being physically and sexually abused at home? either way, she remains accountable for what she did to that poor dog, but let's recognize that the problem is more complicated than it seems. there's more going on here than animal abuse...
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exactly. some of these comments are cruel. one can demonstrate that they don't condone violence without perpetuating it as a means for "justice."

the girl is clearly mentally disturbed. she needs to be psychologically evaluated, and very likely, institutionalized. furthermore, we have no insight into her home life. would everyone be so quick to want to kick her a$$ if they later found out she was being physically and sexually abused at home? either way, she remains accountable for what she did to that poor dog, but let's recognize that the problem is more complicated than it seems. there's more going on here than animal abuse...

True, but it does make me (and some of us) angry enough to say it (although I haven't said it...yet) for immediate gratification even though we don't necessarily mean it. For some of us, it is emotional relief as having pent up anger can be unhealthy and simply saying what would be "normal" justice such as psychological help, juvenile arrest, etc. would prob not do so much for emotional relief immediately after watching the video of a girl taking it out on an innocent animal.
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Old Apr 27th, 2009, 12:29 PM   #74
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ah yes, sorry I misread what you meant.

I do believe that if she abused the dog she is definitely doing it to the cat.
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Old Apr 27th, 2009, 12:39 PM   #75
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No. I think she DOES need her butt kicked or at least been thrown in jail.

That firefighter that abused a puppy got his butt thrown in jail, why not this little girl? Because shes 12? Umm no. There are 12 year old's (even younger!) committing cold blooded murder, thats the next step for this little girl. Maybe if the parents did more than "grounding" her to begin with, it wouldnt have gotten this far. She knew exactly what she was doing. Im just sayin' Im a fan of kids being scared of their parents and what they would do "if" they did something wrong.

Just for clarification, Im not saying every parent should hit their kids, if the method you are using is WORKING, then by all means, continue it. But obviously a little grounding isnt doing ish for this kid. IMO, she needs a nice little whooping.
I agree 100%. And I don't for one second automatically chalk actions like hers up to "mental illness". Some people in this world are just violent a** holes who like inflicting terror on others, including animals for no reason other than they're just plain BAD. Maybe she's one of them?
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