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DiorDeVille · Oct 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM

I'm kind of surprised at how much heat the girl is drawing. Most of the blame rests on the shoulders of the older, more experienced adult who is committed to another and is responsible for several children's stability IMO. If I have to cut anyone some slack, its going to be the 22-year-old who fell for a grown man and experienced cheater's b.s. (which wasn't smart of her at all - and yes, she's acting rather crazy). I hope this guy's wife gets enough in the divorce to make up for even a fraction of what he's done to her and her family - maybe then he'll learn (or at least serve as a cautionary tale).

bag-mania · Oct 27th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by DiorDeVille

I'm kind of surprised at how much heat the girl is drawing. Most of the blame rests on the shoulders of the older, more experienced adult who is committed to another and is responsible for several children's stability IMO. If I have to cut anyone some slack, its going to be the 22-year-old who fell for a grown man and experienced cheater's b.s. (which wasn't smart of her at all - and yes, she's acting rather crazy). I hope this guy's wife gets enough in the divorce to make up for even a fraction of what he's done to her and her family - maybe then he'll learn (or at least serve as a cautionary tale).

I have to disagree here. To me they share equal blame. 22 is more than old enough to understand what she was doing. She willingly entered a relationship with a man she knew was married. Perhaps she was naive enough to believe she could force the relationship to become what she wanted. That doesn't make her a sympathetic character, just a selfish, pushy one.

surferchick2 · Oct 28th, 2009, 12:25 AM

I can't believe she went so out of her way to sign up for facebook, pose as a classmate, and get personal info about their family from their son. Regardless of the adulterous relationship between the two, what followed is so pathetic and intrusive. It's hard enough for his wife to face what her cheating asshole has done, but to take all that time to find a way to rub in it and hand her a detailed letter about their affair, activities with her children, and telling her what why their last two children were conceived. That's scary and almost overshadows what started it all. Especially after they'd already ended the affair. Gross.

~Fabulousity~ · Oct 28th, 2009, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by bag-mania

I have to disagree here. To me they share equal blame. 22 is more than old enough to understand what she was doing. She willingly entered a relationship with a man she knew was married. Perhaps she was naive enough to believe she could force the relationship to become what she wanted. That doesn't make her a sympathetic character, just a selfish, pushy one.

Agreed.

zoeyjoey · Oct 28th, 2009, 11:42 AM

I would have agreed that Phillips bears more responsible for this situation than Hundley does if Hundley had not invested a significant amount of time (ie stalking Phillips' son on FB) and effort trying to cause an innocent family as much pain and anguish as possible. Now I think they are both scum and deserve whatever they get.

calneva · Oct 28th, 2009, 02:06 PM

Steve Phillips has history of this. He had a reputation for this when he managed the Mets.

I have to take the 911 call at face value. It is an "excited utterance". The wife sounded flustered and scared. The wife said she had been getting threatening messages.

The letter by it's self left me with some sympathetic feelings. It felt like a letter from a young woman led on by an older man. I'm leaving her as soon as -fill in the blank -with what ever excuse he has for the moment.

Her request for the restraining order the following day gives a totally different impression.

Even the sons statement taken that day is creepy.
http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2009/..._statement.pdf

Steve Phillips is totally to blame for sleeping with her, but so much of what has come out, supports that she is unstable, and continued this behavior for weeks.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100263673.html

DiorDeVille · Oct 28th, 2009, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by calneva

Steve Phillips is totally to blame for sleeping with her, but so much of what has come out, supports that she is unstable, and continued this behavior for weeks.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100263673.html

If anything, the fact that she is THIS unstable, and Phillips still chose to carry on an affair with her (you can't tell me that he didn't know she was a way out there pretty early on) just adds to the amount of disrespect he's shown his wife.

Besides, most stable girls don't knowingly carry on an affair with a married guy. I'd call her condition of craziness rather open and obvious, IMO. Its not like Phillips was duped into trusting her by thinking she was a sweet little girl who would never say a word or put a picture out there. In fact, had she not gone out of her way to help him cause his family additional pain and trauma, I'd feel comfortable assuming she was probably hurt by Phillips' treatment of her (which, granted, she seemed to be cruising for at breakneck speed and should have seen coming).

He probably thought she would never rat him out or call his bluff. Its unfortunate that she did so in a way that really hurts his family (who deserved to be spared her behavior and his choices here), but foolish of him to not expect something like this. Or perhaps he did, and didn't care.

calneva · Oct 28th, 2009, 04:15 PM

One of her college classmates talked to the media. The photos that are out there are from her facebook page. People she friend ed were selling them to the media. He said that she removed him and alot of others after the photos started leaking.

He said she did not stand out at all. Her claim to fame in college was for an article on networking and getting an internship. He remarked, it was pretty telling when you looked back on that article. I do not have a link to that article, so take it as unverified info.

She was sleeping with the boss. Just like the David Letterman situation.
She was stable enough to hold a job with ESPN. Even if she did start to appear crazy, I don't think he could unring that bell.

Vegas Long Legs · Oct 28th, 2009, 10:49 PM

Anyone remember the saying "the kind of guy that would screw a bush if he thought there was a snake in it". Steve Phillips fits that description.

Gimmethebag · Oct 28th, 2009, 11:40 PM

Honestly, she's rather homely. And homely girls don't get the kinds of attention that pretty girls do... she was banging a rich, successful and famous man.

She was willing to fight for him. She was stupid, thinking that he would leave his wife and family for her. She was stupid for thinking that giving that letter to his wife would go over well.

Sophie-Rose · Oct 29th, 2009, 05:58 AM

Pathetic!

GirlFriday · Oct 29th, 2009, 06:52 AM

I don't feel bad for the girl, but most of the blame lands on the husband. It's his marriage. If it wasn't this girl, it would be another girl. This girl just happened to be more psycho than some. That's the chance you take when you're sleep around on your spouse.

twin53 · Oct 29th, 2009, 07:06 AM

she 22 and a big girl. she's just as low as he is. no excuses.

sweetneet · Oct 29th, 2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by GirlFriday

I don't feel bad for the girl, but most of the blame lands on the husband. It's his marriage. If it wasn't this girl, it would be another girl. This girl just happened to be more psycho than some. That's the chance you take when you're sleep around on your spouse.

I agree 1000%. While I think what she did was despicable, I find it odd when in situations like this, so many women point fingers solely at the young mistress (who is usually, for all practical purposes, a child) rather than at the cheating husband. Hello, HE was the one who broke marriage vows, not her. HE had the responsibility for not putting his family in harm's way, NOT HER. It was HIM who ultimately made the decision to ruin his family's life. I agree, if not with this girl he would have been with another young girl. By having this affair with this somewhat disturbed woman he should have realized the risk that his family would be affected. All i can think of is that this guy is a scumbag for doing this to his family.

sweetneet · Oct 29th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Roo

ESPN announced that he's been fired.

Interesting that he did pretty much the same thing as David Letterman, and yet people make excuses for Letterman's behavior and condemn this guy. (Letterman wasn't married but was in a 23 year long relationship with the mother of his son.) They are both scum, IMO.

I was thinking the same thing!! When I heard about the situation re: David Letterman I was appalled at how so many people felt sorry for the guy, like it wasn't his fault or something.

Um, when a married man decides to have extramarital affairs (with a variety of subordinate coworkers, no less) he has pretty much decided to screw over his wife/family life then and there. The fact that his family ends up going through hell as a result of all the press, media coverage when the affairs are made public is no one's fault but his own. I personally find it disgusting when men caught with their pants down always act like it's someone else's fault (the media, personal rival, or a psycho mistress) for what their families are made to go through.

Oct 28th, 2009, 12:25 AM	#48
surferchick2 Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,118	I can't believe she went so out of her way to sign up for facebook, pose as a classmate, and get personal info about their family from their son. Regardless of the adulterous relationship between the two, what followed is so pathetic and intrusive. It's hard enough for his wife to face what her cheating asshole has done, but to take all that time to find a way to rub in it and hand her a detailed letter about their affair, activities with her children, and telling her what why their last two children were conceived. That's scary and almost overshadows what started it all. Especially after they'd already ended the affair. Gross.
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Oct 29th, 2009, 05:58 AM	#56
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Oct 29th, 2009, 06:52 AM	#57
GirlFriday Member Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,355	I don't feel bad for the girl, but most of the blame lands on the husband. It's his marriage. If it wasn't this girl, it would be another girl. This girl just happened to be more psycho than some. That's the chance you take when you're sleep around on your spouse.
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Oct 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM	#46
DiorDeVille OP Member Joined: Apr 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 614	I'm kind of surprised at how much heat the girl is drawing. Most of the blame rests on the shoulders of the older, more experienced adult who is committed to another and is responsible for several children's stability IMO. If I have to cut anyone some slack, its going to be the 22-year-old who fell for a grown man and experienced cheater's b.s. (which wasn't smart of her at all - and yes, she's acting rather crazy). I hope this guy's wife gets enough in the divorce to make up for even a fraction of what he's done to her and her family - maybe then he'll learn (or at least serve as a cautionary tale).

Oct 28th, 2009, 11:42 AM	#50
zoeyjoey Member Joined: Jun 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 255	I would have agreed that Phillips bears more responsible for this situation than Hundley does if Hundley had not invested a significant amount of time (ie stalking Phillips' son on FB) and effort trying to cause an innocent family as much pain and anguish as possible. Now I think they are both scum and deserve whatever they get.

Oct 28th, 2009, 02:06 PM	#51
calneva drive life Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Overworkedville Posts: 539	Steve Phillips has history of this. He had a reputation for this when he managed the Mets. I have to take the 911 call at face value. It is an "excited utterance". The wife sounded flustered and scared. The wife said she had been getting threatening messages. The letter by it's self left me with some sympathetic feelings. It felt like a letter from a young woman led on by an older man. I'm leaving her as soon as -fill in the blank -with what ever excuse he has for the moment. Her request for the restraining order the following day gives a totally different impression. Even the sons statement taken that day is creepy. http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2009/..._statement.pdf Steve Phillips is totally to blame for sleeping with her, but so much of what has come out, supports that she is unstable, and continued this behavior for weeks. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100263673.html

Oct 28th, 2009, 04:15 PM	#53
calneva drive life Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Overworkedville Posts: 539	One of her college classmates talked to the media. The photos that are out there are from her facebook page. People she friend ed were selling them to the media. He said that she removed him and alot of others after the photos started leaking. He said she did not stand out at all. Her claim to fame in college was for an article on networking and getting an internship. He remarked, it was pretty telling when you looked back on that article. I do not have a link to that article, so take it as unverified info. She was sleeping with the boss. Just like the David Letterman situation. She was stable enough to hold a job with ESPN. Even if she did start to appear crazy, I don't think he could unring that bell.

Oct 29th, 2009, 07:06 AM	#58
twin53 Member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,181	she 22 and a big girl. she's just as low as he is. no excuses.
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