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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #1
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Louis Vuitton Wasn't Happy When Rappers Used Their Logos In Music Videos


By EMILY FRIEDMAN
Aug. 4, 2008

At first glance, having a celebrity photographed toting or wearing the merchandise from a luxury goods company would seem to be a marketer's dream come true. Instead, the purveyors of high-end clothes, booze and bling are increasingly calling in the lawyers on celebs who feature their goods or trademarks without permission.

Last week, high-end designer Louis Vuitton reached an agreement with Sony BMG after suing the record label for allowing its artists, including Da Brat, Britney Spears and former American Idol Ruben Studdard, to use the company's signature Toile monogram and Multicolor trademarks without permission in music videos and CD inserts.

Rapper Da Brat bounced a beach ball with the Vuitton logos on it in a music video, Studdard used the trademark in his album's artwork, and Spears drove a car with a dashboard tattooed with the colorful symbols.
And while some may consider this free publicity from pop stars that so many fans want to emulate – a following any brand's bottom line would prosper from – Louis Vuitton begs to differ.

"We believe the terms of this agreement will provide strong protection to our brand worldwide," Louis Vuitton said in a statement.

A company spokesperson even told the New York Daily News, "We don't make dashboards," referring to Spears' music video.

A representative from Sony BMG declined to comment about the settlement.

Branding experts told ABCNews.com that while luxury designers like Louis Vuitton may have a point when they sue over the misuse of their logos on items they don't even manufacture, beach balls and dashboards won't be hitting the shelves of upscale boutiques anytime soon.

But that's not the only reason luxury goods makers are upset. The truth is the brands don't want just any celebrity representing their hard-earned image, they want only those they hand-pick themselves.

Are Luxury Brands Biting The Hand That Feeds Them?

"High-end companies like Cristal and Petron liquor and Louis Vuitton want to be the gatekeepers of their celebrity affiliations," said Marvet Britto, the head of New York public relations and brand strategy firm The Britto Agency.

In 2006, the company that produces the pricey champagne Cristal came under fire when managing director Frederic Rouzaud told The Economist magazine that he viewed the attention the drink gets from rappers and their fans with "curiosity and serenity," according to The Associated Press.

And when asked if he thought the rappers' adoration for the drink would hurt the brand, Rouzaud replied, "That's a good question, but what can we do? We can't forbid people from buying it. I'm sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business."

Jay-Z, one of the rappers who frequently drank Cristal and offered it in his lounges, backpedaled immediately on the brand, even going as far as to recommend that other artists boycott the expensive bubbly.

"[The Cristal incident] was another example of a luxury brand not appreciating the very segment that was largely responsible for the visibility and support of their brand," said Britto. "Now you don't see Cristal the way you used to."

Brand experts added that even all-American clothing designer Tommy Hilfiger had to deny rumors that he once told Oprah Winfrey that he'd rather minorities not wear his clothes. While the claims were never substantiated, the rumors still swirl.

Britto added that Louis Vuitton's No. 1 problem with Sony BMG was likely the advertisement for goods the label doesn't even produce. But she said that there is a general trend among high-end designers to do everything they can to market their products to the groups of people they really want to see wearing them.

"The brands don't say it, but where they spend their marketing dollars is very reflective of who they want wearing their things," said Britto.

Steve Hall, the editor of a marketing industry blog Adrants.com, agrees, and says that while the brand executives may not come right out and say who they do and do not want photographed wearing their items, they make it clear in other ways.

"They will launch the legal machine just to make headaches because they don't want to be associated with Britney Spears, who shaves her head and has a teen sister who has a baby," said Hall.

"While they can't say that Britney's family isn't allowed to buy their products, they're not happy with the association, so they do try to stop it," Hall added.

Hall said that marketing strategists for these companies work long and hard to develop their image and the last thing they want is someone to "take a crayon and draw all over the brand's clear image."

The approach can backfire, said Hall. A celebrity's endorsement of an item can catapult a brand as high as their disapproval can harm it.

"Celebrities have a giant influence just by picking up a particular brand," said Hal. "But they can conversely destroy it if they think the brand is manhandling them or just being rude."

Brands likely weigh the risks before taking action against stars, and Hall said that Louis Vuitton probably didn't believe Idol's Studdard to be a big enough money-maker to have any long-term effect on the company's sales.

But much of the brand imaging that high-end companies work hard to mold is out of their hands, according to Hall.

"[Luxury brands] can control what happens in their actual marketing because they'll pay for celebrities to appear, but what happens organically they can't really control, even though they'd like to."


(http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...5499191&page=1)
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #2
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Maybe the companies could have their accountants figure out which percentage of their profits are due to purchases made by market segments and demographics that lie outside their desired consumer profile, and donate that money to charity.
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Right! ^

Celebs DO give out a giant influence on a partifcular brand... And yet, they want to complain about it?
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM   #4
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I agree, Veelyn.


What the managing director of Cristal said was racist. I also think it came across as very elitist.



A very small percentage of the population can actually afford these luxury brands. Of that percentage, a handful of people may have influence over the others.

It wouldn't do to offend them.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 07:36 PM   #5
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LV comes off as elitist as well. Yet you hear members of tPF complain about certain brands being too "ghetto" for them, which is horribly offensive in my eyes, too. So clearly some brands are catering to the same members of tPF who are obsessed with the image their brand carries. It is a double-edge sword: risk alienating the demographic who actually buys your brand vs risk alienating the demographic you WANT to buy your brand.
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I have such mixed emotions about this. On one hand I can understand certain brands not wanting to be associated with certain things. However, I still feel what everyone is saying about the brands coming off as elitist. Some of it I think is hidden racism...some of it is just not wanting to be associated with people who have a poor rep in the spotlight. I can understand why someone would not want Britney Spears plugging anything for them. She's not the best role model for people and has a pretty poor image. I can't lie though...I hate seeing certain brands over and over in rap videos.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #7
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I think the only time a luxury brand/label has a say in who represents them is in the case of lending out items for high profile events.

If a brand doesn't want, say, Tara Reid representing them, they have the right to refuse if Tara's people ask to borrow an item on her behalf.



If she were to go into their store and buy something, that's different. The item is hers. She paid for it and if she wants to get photographed in it, that's her business.
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I forgot to add that I also agree if a brand doesn't want people showing off an item that doesn't actually exist in their line. That part makes sense to me.
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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #9
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^^ Me, too.


(Unless they make it clear that it's actually from that brand and the person had it custom made.)
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I think it's fair enough that these brands they don't want to be associated with celebrities they don't 'choose'. They have been doing very well well before 'celebrities' started using their logos, and will continue to do so. And being seen in Britney Spears' (etc) videos WOULD cheapen their image! They're not saying they don't want to be associated with 'musicians', etc (see their Jewellery line in collaboration with Pharell Williams).
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LV comes off as elitist as well. Yet you hear members of tPF complain about certain brands being too "ghetto" for them, which is horribly offensive in my eyes, too. So clearly some brands are catering to the same members of tPF who are obsessed with the image their brand carries. It is a double-edge sword: risk alienating the demographic who actually buys your brand vs risk alienating the demographic you WANT to buy your brand.
Wow, I have never seen this. I never knew a name brand, high quality item could be "ghetto."

Hmph.
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Wow, I have never seen this. I never knew a name brand, high quality item could be "ghetto."

Hmph.

I've heard people say this about Baby Phat but i'm sure Kimora takes it as a compliment
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no kidding! the beach ball in DaBrat's video wasn't real? uncanny

anyway, about the article...

I guess its fair. especially for Dabrat and Britney's video. The companies dont like when their image is used without their permission and those videos make no exception.

As far as not liking "certain kinds of people" wearing or using their items...thats just ridiculous. Otherwise they should sell their products in stores as "invitation only"!
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True story: I worked for an ad agency years ago that did the advertising for Barbie Collectibles. This was before you could order things on the internet folks. Yes, hard to believe. You had to call an 800# or send in the coupon. At any rate, the CEO of Mattel became enraged when she found out we placed ads for her precious Barbie Collectibles (which cost $80+) in the Star and National Enquirer. She said it didn't fit the "image" of Barbie. Meanwhile, most of our sales were coming from those magazines. She made us pull every single ad from those magazines.

It just goes to show that you never know who is buying and valuing your product, and you should let the consumer be the judge, not you.
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^^^^
Eventually, though, Lori, do you think that perhaps it would hurt Barbie's sales? Maybe not in the immediate future, but it may lose out on the market that doesn't read National Enquirer... example: American Girl dolls are seen as fairy high-end. I think the mother that buys her daughter a Bratz doll is not the same mother that buys her an American Girl doll. Could Barbie eventually lose important customers because Barbie ends up becoming a doll associated with alien babies and other crazy stories in the Enquirer and the people that read them?

I think it's wise of luxury brands to think ahead into the future of how this could ultimately impact their brand's image 10 years or 25 years from now. It's not just about sales today, but how a brand maintains its relevance in the luxury market in the future.
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