Just wondering what some thoughts are around here.

I think it was the right move. Like I said on twitter "Jo Pa is involved because he chose NOT to get involved'" He exercised poor judgement & shoulda/coulda done more and chose not to. He basically admitted wrong-doing when he said "in hindsight I shoulda done more" The fact is he could have prevented this disgusting child molesting piece of crap from doing more harm to childrens' lives and he didn't!

Had he still coached these games,they woulda been a rally for him which is totally wrong IMO.

Penn St....you finally made a right call. A lil too late tho! Where were ya back in '98?!!

Who?

Originally Posted by Sternchen

Who?

He's was the coach for football at Penn St university :)

Ah okay :) I tried to google but there must be something bad that comes up with the search, because my browser said that work blocked the page!

I agree. I also think the university officials had to know what was going on but wanted to cover it up. Too bad.

My boot is not pointy enough for his a$$.

i am not a psychotic college football fan nor a penn state alum -

after paterno announced he was leaving, the school could have let him finish out the year. firing him does nothing to make penn state look better. if anything, it adds fuel to the fire. too many people dropped the ball. paterno has done a ton for that school for decades. to make him go out like that is wrong imho.

paterno did not molest the kid. my understanding is he heard through the grapevine that this was going on and reported it to his superiors at penn state. he worked with the coach and you cannot assume that because someone else says someone did something wrong it's automatically true.

if you worked with someone for years, this person no longer works with you and you're told hey, this guy is doing something wrong, do you automatically run to the police? no. you tell your boss and let them handle it since it's (possibly) taking place on their grounds.

i think penn state was stupid for letting someone use the facilities when they no longer worked there. there are too many liabilities with that, which is now obvious.

bottomline: penn state has to blame someone so they're using the face of their sports program to do that.

So tell me, if someone came to you and said "Hey, a person accused so and so of sexual abuse", and that person was a direct report to you, would you simply report it to your boss and be done with it, or would you follow up? Maybe say "So, what happen with that sexual abuse case?"
Sorry, but simply reporting it, in this case, was too little. This was the defensive coordinator of a nationally visible football program. If I was Joe, I'd want to know what the hell was going on and make sure I wasn't employing a child molester. I guess having a great defense was more important.

Ugh, pure disgust, goodbye and good riddance. All involved need to go. I find the outrage over the firing to be outrageous.

Originally Posted by Charles

So tell me, if someone came to you and said "Hey, a person accused so and so of sexual abuse", and that person was a direct report to you, would you simply report it to your boss and be done with it, or would you follow up? Maybe say "So, what happen with that sexual abuse case?" Sorry, but simply reporting it, in this case, was too little. This was the defensive coordinator of a nationally visible football program. If I was Joe, I'd want to know what the hell was going on and make sure I wasn't employing a child molester. I guess having a great defense was more important.

i was under the impression that when Mike McQueary, the assistant who witnessed Sandusky allegedly sexually assault a 10-year-old boy in the shower in 2002, reported the incident to Paterno, Sandusky was already NOT EMPLOYED by Penn State. Meaning, Paterno has no authority over Sandusky at that time. Sandusky did not report to Paterno anymore. Sandusky's access to the university or presence was not under Paterno's control.

So, Paterno reported what McQueary's to Paterno's "boss" at that time, which was Penn State's Atheletic Director. It was the Athletic Director and another senior administrator who decided to only take away Sandusky's keys to the Penn State Atheltic facilities.

So, the burden is actually on the Penn State Athletic Director and other administrators. Could Paterno done more? YES, of course. But, was he the person with the duty? At that time in 02, NO (JMHO).

Originally Posted by Charles

So tell me, if someone came to you and said "Hey, a person accused so and so of sexual abuse", and that person was a direct report to you, would you simply report it to your boss and be done with it, or would you follow up? Maybe say "So, what happen with that sexual abuse case?" Sorry, but simply reporting it, in this case, was too little.

I totally agree. I wonder if one of JoePa's sons or one of the sons of the outraged masses had been raped/sodomized would they feel that someone simply reporting to their boss and then washing their hands of the matter was a reasonable course of action. I will reserve my sympathy for the victims.

Originally Posted by Charles

So tell me, if someone came to you and said "Hey, a person accused so and so of sexual abuse", and that person was a direct report to you, would you simply report it to your boss and be done with it, or would you follow up? Maybe say "So, what happen with that sexual abuse case?" Sorry, but simply reporting it, in this case, was too little. This was the defensive coordinator of a nationally visible football program. If I was Joe, I'd want to know what the hell was going on and make sure I wasn't employing a child molester. I guess having a great defense was more important.

yes, i agree. i would follow up.

the attorney general chose not to press charges even after many allegations. there were many people protecting the program/school, not just paterno.

Also, how does McQueary still have a job??? if he was the actual WITNESS to the alleged crime, then HE should have reported it to the COPS.

Paterno was not a witness, he received a hearsay statement from McQueary. There is a factual dispute as to what McQueary actually told Paterno as well.

I am not a football fan and I did not attend Penn state. I am just giving my opinion as a regular person and applying my legal background into this...I find the way Penn state is handling this to be a bit of a "witch hunt" for the sake of publicity and I find Paterno to be a sacrificial lamb. Note, Paterno was NOT charged with a crime. Was firing in this manner necessary? I feel the Board was catering more to the public outrage over what was the actual "right thing" to do.

Originally Posted by miss alice

i was under the impression that when Mike McQueary, the assistant who witnessed Sandusky allegedly sexually assault a 10-year-old boy in the shower in 2002, reported the incident to Paterno, Sandusky was already NOT EMPLOYED by Penn State. Meaning, Paterno has no authority over Sandusky at that time. So, Paterno reported what McQueary's to Paterno's "boss" at that time, which was Penn State's Atheletic Director. It was the Athletic Director and another senior administrator who decided to only take away Sandusky's keys to the Penn State Atheltic facilities. So, the burden is actually on the Penn State Athletic Director and other administrators. Could Paterno done more? YES, of course. But, was he the person with the duty? At that time in 02, NO (JMHO).

As the police have said, Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation by reporting to administrators, but fell short of what most people consider a moral obligation to do more. McQueary was so distressed by seeing Sandusky subjecting a small boy to anal sex in the showers that he went to Paterno's house the next day to tell him what he saw. For Paterno to say that he didn't get the full story is bullcrap and his actions were morally reprehensible, IMO.

the simple fact that POLICE were not immediately involved is heinous. Schools are always being proven to cover stories that may reflect negatively on them.
ANYONE who knew that this happened is guilty in one way or another.