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Nov 10, 2011, 4:32pm   #61
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Originally Posted by miss alice View Post
Also, how does McQueary still have a job??? if he was the actual WITNESS to the alleged crime, then HE should have reported it to the COPS.

Paterno was not a witness, he received a hearsay statement from McQueary. There is a factual dispute as to what McQueary actually told Paterno as well.

I am not a football fan and I did not attend Penn state. I am just giving my opinion as a regular person and applying my legal background into this...I find the way Penn state is handling this to be a bit of a "witch hunt" for the sake of publicity and I find Paterno to be a sacrificial lamb. Note, Paterno was NOT charged with a crime. Was firing in this manner necessary? I feel the Board was catering more to the public outrage over what was the actual "right thing" to do.
Really! As of now he'll be on the sidelines Saturday. Uggh! I agree. More than likely he was told not to by higher ups. Btw there was at least 2 instances where Sandusky was reported to Paterno. At worst case the 2nd time shoulda raised a flag in Paternos head. Dont ya think?

I respect your thoughts here but I can not agree. When he said and I quote "in hindsite I wish Ida done more" That tells me & many,many ppl he knew & knows alot more than he leads us to believe.
Nov 10, 2011, 4:34pm   #62
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Originally Posted by Swanky Mama Of Three View Post
the simple fact that POLICE were not immediately involved is heinous. Schools are always being proven to cover stories that may reflect negatively on them.
ANYONE who knew that this happened is guilty in one way or another.
*thumbs up* Swanky
Nov 10, 2011, 4:36pm   #63
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Thank you all for the replies,points & comments. Its some very interesting reading. I'll be back on later to reply some more. Gotta go get some food!
Nov 10, 2011, 5:06pm   #64
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Originally Posted by merika View Post
And I can't for the life of me understand why the students are rioting in support of a guy who refused to inquire further into inappropriate conduct involving a child.

When was football more important than child abuse?
its a small community. they live in a bubble. they can't deal with anything that would shake up their little "Pleasantville".
Nov 10, 2011, 5:16pm   #65
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It is so incredibly disturbing to me that a football program is allowed to overshadow the safety and well-being of children. The students shouldn't be rioting in support of their head coach, they should be rioting in support of the victims of abuse. Wake up Penn State. This is not a Penn State issue - it's a human issue....
Nov 10, 2011, 5:19pm   #66
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Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish View Post
its a small community. they live in a bubble. they can't deal with anything that would shake up their little "Pleasantville".
And isn't it ironic that so many of those Penn State folks claim that their community is about so much more than football, and yet they riot and destroy that same town over football.
Nov 10, 2011, 5:19pm   #67
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Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish

its a small community. they live in a bubble. they can't deal with anything that would shake up their little "Pleasantville".
Very well said. Thats college park. Thank you!
Nov 10, 2011, 5:21pm   #68
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Originally Posted by vhdos
It is so incredibly disturbing to me that a football program is allowed to overshadow the safety and well-being of children. The students shouldn't be rioting in support of their head coach, they should be rioting in support of the victims of abuse. Wake up Penn State. This is not a Penn State issue - it's a human issue....
ITA! They should be rioting cause of the cover up! Period!
Nov 10, 2011, 5:24pm   #69
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Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish

its a small community. they live in a bubble. they can't deal with anything that would shake up their little "Pleasantville".
Here's a good one. This is the mentality of the university. You know this news broke on Saturday. Well they took til Wednesday to make a comment about the victims. FOUR days!! Is it any wonder they acted this way to begin with!?
Nov 10, 2011, 5:28pm   #70
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Originally Posted by merika

I disagree.

Each time Paterno stepped out on the field as coach he would be representing Penn State, not himself. And at this time, with the current allegations that he 'passed the buck' when someone reported the abuse of a child, he cannot, in clear conscience, do that.

Paterno had connections, he was a powerful man in the community. Someone who saw an act of abuse came to him, and told him what he witnessed. He had a responsibility, and his responsibility was even greater because of the image he projected in the community.

Have you read the grand jury report? *PLEASE USE CAUTION. SOME PARTS ARE GRAPHIC*
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf
Thanks so much for posting the link to report & I totally agree w/ your comments. Thanks again :) :)
Nov 10, 2011, 5:33pm   #71
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Originally Posted by Lilarose

I agree 100% with your sentiments. I was SO relieved to read that Penn St trustees made the RIGHT decision. JoePa's press conference stating he would coach the rest of the season infuriated me - the scum was trying to take control of the situation. Frankly, I think they all should be up on criminal charges....
YES they did! And yes everyone involved needs to be charged! If you knew & didn't tell, you're just as guilty IMO
Nov 10, 2011, 5:37pm   #72
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Another thing that ticks me off is that Paterno is acting so non-chalantly bout this whole thing. He's even smiling outside his house! But then what would one expect from a man who helped cover up a perverted rapist heinous acts. Smh Uggh
Nov 10, 2011, 6:59pm   #73
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Originally Posted by bagnshoofetish View Post
its a small community. they live in a bubble. they can't deal with anything that would shake up their little "Pleasantville".
Sadly, that's all too true. PSU lies smack dab in the middle of Pennsylvania, 4 hrs from Philly to the East or Pittsburgh to the West. There is nothing there but football, and everything else is dependent on football for financing. I just finished reading the Grand Jury report. I felt as though I had to wash my eyes out with soap after reading it. The Board of Trustees did the right thing, I just don't understand why McQueary still has a job. He saw it and he should have been the one to report it to the police.
Nov 10, 2011, 8:21pm   #74
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Originally Posted by vhdos View Post
It is so incredibly disturbing to me that a football program is allowed to overshadow the safety and well-being of children. The students shouldn't be rioting in support of their head coach, they should be rioting in support of the victims of abuse. Wake up Penn State. This is not a Penn State issue - it's a human issue....
This! I wonder if any of those students who were protesting even read any of the grand jury report? I couldn't even finish it, it was too disturbing.
Nov 10, 2011, 8:44pm   #75
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Paterno and any other coach, assistant coach or university employee is considered a mandated reporter, meaning that if there was reasonable suspicion (not necessarily proof) it was his legal duty to report it to the police to allow them to conduct a full investigation. If a mandated reported fails to report a reasonable suspicion of child abuse, they stand to be accused and convicted on some of the same charges as the abuser himself. I think that every single person in that university who had any inkling that this was happening who did not call police ought to be prosecuted, not just fired. And Paterno was so big on "honor" - what a crock. How many lives were sacrificed - children scarred forever - for the sake of football, the franchise, the reputation of the university and the legacy of some old man? Shameful.
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