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Speedy · Dec 4th, 2007, 03:27 AM

(((Amanda))) Yeppers hon! I sure am!

You know, I joined one month and one day ago! (It's still the 3rd here as far as I'm concerned) Bunch of great folks here.

I've been grinnning all day long, called/emailed everyone I could think of who wanted to know, etc. Tomorrow morning, they will give final arguements and victim-impac statement from the families, then I think, I am not sure, the judge decides his fate. But the worse is all over now.

razorbackbelle0 · Dec 4th, 2007, 09:48 AM

((((((Speedy))))))

Love and prayers to you and your family.

redney · Dec 5th, 2007, 04:55 PM

Speedy, thanks for sharing the news! I'm soooooo glad the justice system worked and that #@!$% was found guilty, guilty, guilty (even though in reality of COURSE he was, but you never know what's gonna happen in a courtroom)!!!! Karma's a b*tch and I hope he gets his many times over while he rots in jail!

{{{hugs}}} to you and your family.

Speedy · Dec 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Thanks ladies!

The jury is right now deciding on whether to put him to death, or life w/o the possibility of parole. As been said, there is a moritoruim (they aren't doing any) on lethal injections right now, so he can spend the rest of his life ON death row. I'll update that as soon as I know.

I'm just glad it's over. (Except for the sentencing, which should come anytime) because life has been in limbo while we all waited.

One of the things that has really bothered me is what HIS family lost too. Daelin was thier blood too, as much as ours. Please keep them in your prayers too.

rubylola · Dec 6th, 2007, 07:24 PM

Keep us updated Speedy, when there is any news.

Speedy · Dec 6th, 2007, 07:57 PM

Just so happens I just got off the phone with my SIL a few seconds ago Ruby!

The jury DOES decide if he gets life without possibility of parole or the death sentence. The closing arguments for this just ended a while ago, and the jury will start deliberating in the morning about it.

The GOOD news is, they allowed testimony (mitigating circumstances it's called) about his past, his drug use, his threatening all his other girlfriends, his criminal past, etc, to be heard, some of it they didn't know about during the trial. His record is quite extensive... going back to when he was a child apparently.

What saddens me is, his family is still standing beside him. I find this persoanlly appalling, since Daelin was their blood too. His Aunt lost her HOME because of his ways, and yet, they testified they would visit him in prison, send him money for his accounts, help him still. Had they not done all this before, the kids would still be alive and Erin wouldn't be scarred like she is. I have a real hard time looking at her now and not hate him. I miss the children so much... and I am beginning to seriously re-think how I felt about the death penatly now. I thought his family would understand the pain he caused ALL of us, and apparently, they don't.

Anyway, they are only having to decide Life w/o or death on the two kids's deaths... although there were 7 counts against him and he was convicted of all 7 (one was lowered from attempted First Degree Murder of Erin to Attempted Voluntary Manslaughter) it's only the charges/conviction of the First Degree Murder (times 2) that they decide on.

Now I'm rambling. I cannot believe his family stated they will stand beside him. They don't have to look at Erin anymore, they don't recall what the kids were like? HOW can they be more concerned with HIS life when three others where taken? (And Erin's WAS taken... she's horribly scarred, to the point that even plastic surgery won't completely take away. She still faces years and years of grafts, not to mention how this haunts her every minute of every day.) I just don't know anymore. I really thought his family would know the same pain mine does.

The good news is, any money he earns while in prison will go immediatly to Erin.

Speedy · Dec 6th, 2007, 07:59 PM

BTW, what I posted yesterday was a mistake, I thought the jury had it yesterday, turned out Mom told me wrong. They were still listening to evidence yesterday and today about stuff to determine if he should be put to death.

keya · Dec 6th, 2007, 08:07 PM

what a HORRIBLE story, Speedy! I am SO glad he was found guilty on all charges, and hopefully you and your family will find peace.

Speedy · Dec 7th, 2007, 07:02 AM

Me too Keya, me too. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.

razorbackbelle0 · Dec 7th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Waiting to hear the news, Speedy, and still thinking and praying about you and your family

keya · Dec 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by razorbackbelle0

Waiting to hear the news, Speedy, and still thinking and praying about you and your family

I'm thinking exactly the same thing, Speedy.

Speedy · Dec 7th, 2007, 10:12 PM

Thanks Razor, Keya. The jury didn't come to a recommendation as of today (Friday) so we go into another weekend. I can imagine it must be hard for 12 men and women to decide on whether or not to put someone like this to death. My concern is how they percieve "intent" on what he did. They may think that while, yes, he was responsible for the kid's death, he didn't mean to kill them. See, it's that simple fact that may save his lousy life.

In 11 days, it will have been four years since this happened. FOUR years.

BagAngel · Dec 8th, 2007, 04:41 PM

OMG Speedy, what a horrible tragedy for your family. I cannot imagine the pain! I am glad it is all over but your poor niece, what she has suffered & her darling children! This guy is a monster beyond all monsters. I hope your family will find justice & peace soon. {{{Hugs}}}

BergdorfBlonde · Dec 8th, 2007, 10:28 PM

Quote:

after telling them they'd be buying toys for Christmas

That broke my heart!
This monster (this word is an understatement) needs to get the needle!

Or better yet, like another tPFer said: fry him!!!

Speedy, I'm so sorry!!!! I am relieved that he was found guilty. I will pray for your family! Please, extend my best wishes to Erin; I hope she can eventually find the peace in her heart. I know her babies are looking out for her.

Speedy · Dec 8th, 2007, 10:43 PM

I will BergorfBlonde, I'll be seeing her at Christmas. I hope to access this forum through Mom's computer and show her the sweet folks here who posted messages to her and us.

Thank you Bag Angel... I've already felt a sense of peace throughout the family as it now that the trial is over... everyone will go back to their respective homes as soon as the sentencing phase is done... and hopfully we'll regain some sense of normalcy. Of course he'll file his appeals and all that bull, but we know he won't be breathing free air anytime in the next oh, 30 or so years... he'll be in his 70's then.

One board I saw, a man posted there saying he knew Mark personally and that Mark wouldn't survive in prison... said Mark was always a coward when it came to being confronted by men. Which is usally what happens with men who do this kind of thing... they pick on women and children because a man can whup 'em and they know it. Whatever happens is now his own fault... he'd been given way too many chances to straighten out.

Again, thank you everyone... your support over the last month has been fantastic, and I can't tell you how much it's helped me get through this time.

Dec 4th, 2007, 03:27 AM	#61
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e (((Amanda))) Yeppers hon! I sure am! You know, I joined one month and one day ago! (It's still the 3rd here as far as I'm concerned) Bunch of great folks here. I've been grinnning all day long, called/emailed everyone I could think of who wanted to know, etc. Tomorrow morning, they will give final arguements and victim-impac statement from the families, then I think, I am not sure, the judge decides his fate. But the worse is all over now.

Dec 4th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#62
razorbackbelle0 Sofa King Banned Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Raiding PBC's closet... shh! Posts: 7,186	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e ((((((Speedy)))))) Love and prayers to you and your family.

Dec 5th, 2007, 04:55 PM	#63
redney Lovin' Life! Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,022	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Speedy, thanks for sharing the news! I'm soooooo glad the justice system worked and that #@!$% was found guilty, guilty, guilty (even though in reality of COURSE he was, but you never know what's gonna happen in a courtroom)!!!! Karma's a b*tch and I hope he gets his many times over while he rots in jail! {{{hugs}}} to you and your family.
redney Lovin' Life! Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 7,022

Dec 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#64
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Thanks ladies! The jury is right now deciding on whether to put him to death, or life w/o the possibility of parole. As been said, there is a moritoruim (they aren't doing any) on lethal injections right now, so he can spend the rest of his life ON death row. I'll update that as soon as I know. I'm just glad it's over. (Except for the sentencing, which should come anytime) because life has been in limbo while we all waited. One of the things that has really bothered me is what HIS family lost too. Daelin was thier blood too, as much as ours. Please keep them in your prayers too.

Dec 6th, 2007, 07:24 PM	#65
rubylola Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,809	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Keep us updated Speedy, when there is any news.
rubylola Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,809

Dec 6th, 2007, 07:57 PM	#66
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Just so happens I just got off the phone with my SIL a few seconds ago Ruby! The jury DOES decide if he gets life without possibility of parole or the death sentence. The closing arguments for this just ended a while ago, and the jury will start deliberating in the morning about it. The GOOD news is, they allowed testimony (mitigating circumstances it's called) about his past, his drug use, his threatening all his other girlfriends, his criminal past, etc, to be heard, some of it they didn't know about during the trial. His record is quite extensive... going back to when he was a child apparently. What saddens me is, his family is still standing beside him. I find this persoanlly appalling, since Daelin was their blood too. His Aunt lost her HOME because of his ways, and yet, they testified they would visit him in prison, send him money for his accounts, help him still. Had they not done all this before, the kids would still be alive and Erin wouldn't be scarred like she is. I have a real hard time looking at her now and not hate him. I miss the children so much... and I am beginning to seriously re-think how I felt about the death penatly now. I thought his family would understand the pain he caused ALL of us, and apparently, they don't. Anyway, they are only having to decide Life w/o or death on the two kids's deaths... although there were 7 counts against him and he was convicted of all 7 (one was lowered from attempted First Degree Murder of Erin to Attempted Voluntary Manslaughter) it's only the charges/conviction of the First Degree Murder (times 2) that they decide on. Now I'm rambling. I cannot believe his family stated they will stand beside him. They don't have to look at Erin anymore, they don't recall what the kids were like? HOW can they be more concerned with HIS life when three others where taken? (And Erin's WAS taken... she's horribly scarred, to the point that even plastic surgery won't completely take away. She still faces years and years of grafts, not to mention how this haunts her every minute of every day.) I just don't know anymore. I really thought his family would know the same pain mine does. The good news is, any money he earns while in prison will go immediatly to Erin.

Dec 6th, 2007, 07:59 PM	#67
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e BTW, what I posted yesterday was a mistake, I thought the jury had it yesterday, turned out Mom told me wrong. They were still listening to evidence yesterday and today about stuff to determine if he should be put to death.

Dec 6th, 2007, 08:07 PM	#68
keya Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,927	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e what a HORRIBLE story, Speedy! I am SO glad he was found guilty on all charges, and hopefully you and your family will find peace.
keya Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,927

Dec 7th, 2007, 07:02 AM	#69
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Me too Keya, me too. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.

Dec 7th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#70
razorbackbelle0 Sofa King Banned Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Raiding PBC's closet... shh! Posts: 7,186	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Waiting to hear the news, Speedy, and still thinking and praying about you and your family

Dec 7th, 2007, 10:12 PM	#72
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e Thanks Razor, Keya. The jury didn't come to a recommendation as of today (Friday) so we go into another weekend. I can imagine it must be hard for 12 men and women to decide on whether or not to put someone like this to death. My concern is how they percieve "intent" on what he did. They may think that while, yes, he was responsible for the kid's death, he didn't mean to kill them. See, it's that simple fact that may save his lousy life. In 11 days, it will have been four years since this happened. FOUR years.

Dec 8th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#73
BagAngel Louis Vuitton Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 20,399	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e OMG Speedy, what a horrible tragedy for your family. I cannot imagine the pain! I am glad it is all over but your poor niece, what she has suffered & her darling children! This guy is a monster beyond all monsters. I hope your family will find justice & peace soon. {{{Hugs}}}
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Dec 8th, 2007, 10:43 PM	#75
Speedy Sofa King Banned Joined: Nov 2007 Location: N. California Posts: 3,750	Re: Incredibly sad article: Vallejo man on trial for torching two boys in attack on e I will BergorfBlonde, I'll be seeing her at Christmas. I hope to access this forum through Mom's computer and show her the sweet folks here who posted messages to her and us. Thank you Bag Angel... I've already felt a sense of peace throughout the family as it now that the trial is over... everyone will go back to their respective homes as soon as the sentencing phase is done... and hopfully we'll regain some sense of normalcy. Of course he'll file his appeals and all that bull, but we know he won't be breathing free air anytime in the next oh, 30 or so years... he'll be in his 70's then. One board I saw, a man posted there saying he knew Mark personally and that Mark wouldn't survive in prison... said Mark was always a coward when it came to being confronted by men. Which is usally what happens with men who do this kind of thing... they pick on women and children because a man can whup 'em and they know it. Whatever happens is now his own fault... he'd been given way too many chances to straighten out. Again, thank you everyone... your support over the last month has been fantastic, and I can't tell you how much it's helped me get through this time.

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