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Panda1 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 02:01 AM

I am so sorry for the passengers and their families.

BagAngel · Jun 3rd, 2009, 07:56 AM

I do hope that they just passed out from lack of oxygen & didn't know what was happening.

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Necromancer

^^ Thanks for the update of this tragedy.

I didnt want to have to update it this way...

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:30 AM

I feel so sorry for the families..

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:54 AM

http://charter.net/news/read.php?ps=...ARSDCCLM_UNEWS

French: No sign of problem with Air France jet

PARIS (AP) — A French accident investigator said Wednesday there were no signs of problems with Air France Flight 447 before takeoff and it was unclear whether the chief pilot was at the controls when the plane plunged into the Atlantic Ocean.
The head of France's accident investigation agency, Paul-Louis Arslanian, also said he was "not optimistic" that rescuers will recover the plane's black boxes, believed to be on rugged terrain miles (kilometers) under the sea.
The plane, carrying 228 people, lost contact with ground controllers after leaving Rio de Janeiro for Paris on Sunday night. The crew made no distress call before the crash, but the plane's system sent an automatic message just before it disappeared, reporting lost cabin pressure and electrical failure.
The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories.
Arslanian told a news conference at Le Bourget airport north of Paris that investigators were studying the plane's maintenance and other records, and that there were "no elements" suggesting the plane had problems before takeoff.
He stressed the investigation was only beginning and was likely to last long. He said investigators didn't have enough information to determine whether the plane broke up in the air or upon impact with the sea.
"We don't even know the exact time of the accident," he said.
Asked whether the chief pilot was in the cockpit when the plane went down, Arslanian said, "We don't have for the time being the answer." Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns at the controls to remain alert.
"Until the last minute we all hoped it was just a normal loss of contact. It's very difficult to accept such a disaster," he said.
Military planes and ships from Brazil and France homed in Wednesday on the bobbing wreckage of the Air France jet, 400 miles (640 kilometers) northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast, where an airplane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris were spotted a day earlier.
Rescue boats from several nations were sailing toward the site to start the recovery.
Arslanian said if rescuers don't find the black boxes, investigators should be prepared to continue the probe without them.
The man in charge of the investigation, Alain Bouillard, led the probe into the 2000 crash of the Concorde supersonic jet. He said Wednesday the accident investigation agency, known by its French acronym BEA, would submit its first preliminary report by the end of June.

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:56 AM

I also heard there were bombs threats for a similar flight.. but the jet was looked over and said to have been fine. I'll try to find a link..

Also, there were many more people who were supposed to be on this flight, but it was full, so they had to take a flight the next day. I wonder how they are feeling? Someone was definitely looking over them that day.

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:59 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524835,00.html

Air France Bomb Threat Before Flight 447 Crash

Just days before the mysterious crash of Air France Flight 447 in the Atlantic Ocean, Brazilian authorities reportedly delayed a similar Air France flight from Buenos Aires to Paris after the airline received a bomb threat over the phone.
Police and officials at Buenos Aires' Ezeiza Airport spent 90 minutes inspecting the threatened plane for explosives on the evening of May 27, but found nothing, according to a Brazilian news report.
During the search, passengers were not evacuated from the jet and later arrived safely at their destination in Paris.
A French accident investigator said Wednesday it's unclear whether the chief pilot of Flight 447 was at the controls when the plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean.
Click to view photos.
The head of France's accident investigation agency also said he is "not optimistic" that rescuers will recover the plane's black boxes, which are probably miles underwater.
Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns at the controls to remain alert. Asked whether the chief pilot was in the cockpit when the plane went down, the chief investigator told a news conference in France that there was no confirmed information either way.

He noted, "We don't even know the exact time of the accident."
He also told reporters there were no indications of a problem with the plane before it left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday night en route to Paris.
Military planes and ships from Brazil and France homed in Wednesday on the bobbing wreckage of Flight 447, as investigators tried to determine what brought the plane and its 228 passengers down in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
The planes stepped up overflights 400 miles northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast, where an airplane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris were spotted Tuesday in the vast ocean.
Rescue boats from several nations were sailing toward the site to start the recovery.

Air France Flight 447 vanished Sunday night about four hours into its flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories.
French accident investigators leading the investigation were holding a news conference later Wednesday.
"The nature of the debris, the concentration of the debris ... all combines to prove that the debris from Air France 447 has been found," French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said Wednesday.
Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim told reporters in Rio that no bodies had been found and there was no signs of life.
If no survivors are found, it would be the deadliest crash in Air France's history, and the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in the New York City borough of Queens that killed 265 people.
The floating debris is spread out in two areas about 35 miles apart, not far off the flight path of Flight 447, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.
In Paris on Wednesday, Prazuck said the French military was moving away from its sweeping aerial searches to "the next phase, the recovery of this debris, to be able to conduct the investigation and determine the probable zone of the accident, around which we must search for the black boxes."

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:00 AM

What are the black boxes they are referring to? Pardon my ignorance.

Vegas Long Legs · Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:11 AM

flight data recorders that record all electrical etc. information that occurs on the plane including cockpit conversations. They are usually orange in color.

guccigal07 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:58 AM

I wish they would.....like someone transmit those over the internet or something....so when bad things happen...we don't always have to find that black box.

What really bugs me...is the news has almost passed this by.

to me, this is a big deal. Very scary....these types of things are not supposed to happen.

US news would rather talk about Susan Boyle...thank this horrific experience these poor folks went thru.

PrinceAbdullah · Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Vegas Long Legs

flight data recorders that record all electrical etc. information that occurs on the plane including cockpit conversations. They are usually orange in color.

Yes. I wish they can find it, to see what really happened. It just freaks me out. I'm supposed to go to Jordan and Airfrance was the cheapest carrier. I kinda feel nervous.

As soon as I go over the middle of the ocean thats when I will freak out. I will be like, What if this, what if that? AHH!!

Cornflower Blue · Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:17 AM

Apparently they've found a 7-metre chunk of plane.

Air France Plane Crash: More Debris Spotted

Breaking News

3:46pm UK, Wednesday June 03, 2009

More debris has been found from the wreckage of an Air France jet that crashed over the Atlantic, including a seven-metre long chunk of the plane.

But investigators are "not optimistic" about finding the 'black box' of Flight AF447, as military planes scour the area for further wreckage.
Rescue boats from several countries are sailing toward the site, about 400 miles from the Brazilian coast, to start the recovery process.
Aviation experts are trying to find out why the plane carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris came down in the water early on Monday.
Paul-Louis Arslanian, head of France's accident investigation agency, doubted its black box flight recorder could be recovered under miles of water.
There were no "elements" indicating a problem with the aircraft before it left Brazil, en route to Paris, Mr Arslanian went on.
But he added it was uncertain whether the chief pilot was at the controls when the jet came down. Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns flying to remain alert.

The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories.
Planes spotted a plane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris on Tuesday about 400 miles north east of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast.
Brazilian Defence Minister Nelson Jobim has said no bodies were spotted.

If no survivors are found, it would be the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in New York City that killed 265 people.
The floating debris was spread out in two areas about 35 miles apart, not far off the flight path of Flight AF447, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.
The recovery effort is expected to be exceedingly challenging.
Storm season is starting in the zone and low visibility hampered rescue efforts on Tuesday. Water depths in the area sink down to 22,950ft (7,000 metres).
Weather and aviation experts are focusing on the possibility of a collision with a brutal storm that sent winds of 100mph (160kph) straight into the airliner's path.
:: Flight recorders are designed to send homing signals for up to 30 days when they hit water but many do not float well.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...Atlantic_Ocean

Veelyn · Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Vegas Long Legs

flight data recorders that record all electrical etc. information that occurs on the plane including cockpit conversations. They are usually orange in color.

Ohh ok.

Jahpson · Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:58 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...ial/index.html

there is a photo of the oil slick in the ocean. That is a lot

Jahpson · Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by lostnexposed

I dunno why but I just can't stop thinking about this incident!

Same here.

I said a prayer this morning for them, that if the passengers are not with us (and it looks like they aren't) that their souls are kept and they are in peace. My heart aches for the remaining families who have to deal with such a loss. Especially when it looks like they won't be getting the remains.

Idk, what I would do or think if one of my own were on that plane...I grieve for everyone

Jun 3rd, 2009, 02:01 AM	#91
Panda1 Member Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 260	I am so sorry for the passengers and their families.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 07:56 AM	#92
BagAngel Louis Vuitton Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 20,249	I do hope that they just passed out from lack of oxygen & didn't know what was happening.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:30 AM	#94
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:54 AM	#95
Veelyn BABYGiRL <3 Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Fangtasia Posts: 13,503	http://charter.net/news/read.php?ps=...ARSDCCLM_UNEWS French: No sign of problem with Air France jet PARIS (AP) — A French accident investigator said Wednesday there were no signs of problems with Air France Flight 447 before takeoff and it was unclear whether the chief pilot was at the controls when the plane plunged into the Atlantic Ocean. The head of France's accident investigation agency, Paul-Louis Arslanian, also said he was "not optimistic" that rescuers will recover the plane's black boxes, believed to be on rugged terrain miles (kilometers) under the sea. The plane, carrying 228 people, lost contact with ground controllers after leaving Rio de Janeiro for Paris on Sunday night. The crew made no distress call before the crash, but the plane's system sent an automatic message just before it disappeared, reporting lost cabin pressure and electrical failure. The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories. Arslanian told a news conference at Le Bourget airport north of Paris that investigators were studying the plane's maintenance and other records, and that there were "no elements" suggesting the plane had problems before takeoff. He stressed the investigation was only beginning and was likely to last long. He said investigators didn't have enough information to determine whether the plane broke up in the air or upon impact with the sea. "We don't even know the exact time of the accident," he said. Asked whether the chief pilot was in the cockpit when the plane went down, Arslanian said, "We don't have for the time being the answer." Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns at the controls to remain alert. "Until the last minute we all hoped it was just a normal loss of contact. It's very difficult to accept such a disaster," he said. Military planes and ships from Brazil and France homed in Wednesday on the bobbing wreckage of the Air France jet, 400 miles (640 kilometers) northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast, where an airplane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris were spotted a day earlier. Rescue boats from several nations were sailing toward the site to start the recovery. Arslanian said if rescuers don't find the black boxes, investigators should be prepared to continue the probe without them. The man in charge of the investigation, Alain Bouillard, led the probe into the 2000 crash of the Concorde supersonic jet. He said Wednesday the accident investigation agency, known by its French acronym BEA, would submit its first preliminary report by the end of June.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:56 AM	#96
Veelyn BABYGiRL <3 Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Fangtasia Posts: 13,503	I also heard there were bombs threats for a similar flight.. but the jet was looked over and said to have been fine. I'll try to find a link.. Also, there were many more people who were supposed to be on this flight, but it was full, so they had to take a flight the next day. I wonder how they are feeling? Someone was definitely looking over them that day.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:59 AM	#97
Veelyn BABYGiRL <3 Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Fangtasia Posts: 13,503	http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524835,00.html Air France Bomb Threat Before Flight 447 Crash Just days before the mysterious crash of Air France Flight 447 in the Atlantic Ocean, Brazilian authorities reportedly delayed a similar Air France flight from Buenos Aires to Paris after the airline received a bomb threat over the phone. Police and officials at Buenos Aires' Ezeiza Airport spent 90 minutes inspecting the threatened plane for explosives on the evening of May 27, but found nothing, according to a Brazilian news report. During the search, passengers were not evacuated from the jet and later arrived safely at their destination in Paris. A French accident investigator said Wednesday it's unclear whether the chief pilot of Flight 447 was at the controls when the plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. Click to view photos. The head of France's accident investigation agency also said he is "not optimistic" that rescuers will recover the plane's black boxes, which are probably miles underwater. Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns at the controls to remain alert. Asked whether the chief pilot was in the cockpit when the plane went down, the chief investigator told a news conference in France that there was no confirmed information either way. He noted, "We don't even know the exact time of the accident." He also told reporters there were no indications of a problem with the plane before it left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday night en route to Paris. Military planes and ships from Brazil and France homed in Wednesday on the bobbing wreckage of Flight 447, as investigators tried to determine what brought the plane and its 228 passengers down in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. The planes stepped up overflights 400 miles northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast, where an airplane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris were spotted Tuesday in the vast ocean. Rescue boats from several nations were sailing toward the site to start the recovery. Air France Flight 447 vanished Sunday night about four hours into its flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories. French accident investigators leading the investigation were holding a news conference later Wednesday. "The nature of the debris, the concentration of the debris ... all combines to prove that the debris from Air France 447 has been found," French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said Wednesday. Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim told reporters in Rio that no bodies had been found and there was no signs of life. If no survivors are found, it would be the deadliest crash in Air France's history, and the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in the New York City borough of Queens that killed 265 people. The floating debris is spread out in two areas about 35 miles apart, not far off the flight path of Flight 447, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral. In Paris on Wednesday, Prazuck said the French military was moving away from its sweeping aerial searches to "the next phase, the recovery of this debris, to be able to conduct the investigation and determine the probable zone of the accident, around which we must search for the black boxes."
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:00 AM	#98
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:11 AM	#99
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 10:58 AM	#100
guccigal07 He is Risen Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,743	I wish they would.....like someone transmit those over the internet or something....so when bad things happen...we don't always have to find that black box. What really bugs me...is the news has almost passed this by. to me, this is a big deal. Very scary....these types of things are not supposed to happen. US news would rather talk about Susan Boyle...thank this horrific experience these poor folks went thru.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:17 AM	#102
Cornflower Blue Member Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,327	Apparently they've found a 7-metre chunk of plane. Air France Plane Crash: More Debris Spotted Breaking News 3:46pm UK, Wednesday June 03, 2009 More debris has been found from the wreckage of an Air France jet that crashed over the Atlantic, including a seven-metre long chunk of the plane. But investigators are "not optimistic" about finding the 'black box' of Flight AF447, as military planes scour the area for further wreckage. Rescue boats from several countries are sailing toward the site, about 400 miles from the Brazilian coast, to start the recovery process. Aviation experts are trying to find out why the plane carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris came down in the water early on Monday. Paul-Louis Arslanian, head of France's accident investigation agency, doubted its black box flight recorder could be recovered under miles of water. There were no "elements" indicating a problem with the aircraft before it left Brazil, en route to Paris, Mr Arslanian went on. But he added it was uncertain whether the chief pilot was at the controls when the jet came down. Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns flying to remain alert. The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories. Planes spotted a plane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris on Tuesday about 400 miles north east of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast. Brazilian Defence Minister Nelson Jobim has said no bodies were spotted. If no survivors are found, it would be the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in New York City that killed 265 people. The floating debris was spread out in two areas about 35 miles apart, not far off the flight path of Flight AF447, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral. The recovery effort is expected to be exceedingly challenging. Storm season is starting in the zone and low visibility hampered rescue efforts on Tuesday. Water depths in the area sink down to 22,950ft (7,000 metres). Weather and aviation experts are focusing on the possibility of a collision with a brutal storm that sent winds of 100mph (160kph) straight into the airliner's path. :: Flight recorders are designed to send homing signals for up to 30 days when they hit water but many do not float well. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...Atlantic_Ocean
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:58 AM	#104
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