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jenniletv · Oct 1st, 2009, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by tabbyco

I, like beejerry, have walked the long road of infertility....

I have done 2 IVF cycles, first attempt was not successful, second was successful :-) I'm 9 weeks pregnant after 2 years of infertility.

If anyone wants to chat about IVF, you can always PM me. IVF can often be very intimidating b/c of the high price tag, but it isn't all that different from medicated IUIs... just one extra step!

Good luck ladies!

Excellent news!!!! Congrats again!!!!!!

BearyT · Oct 1st, 2009, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by tabbyco

I, like beejerry, have walked the long road of infertility....

I have done 2 IVF cycles, first attempt was not successful, second was successful :-) I'm 9 weeks pregnant after 2 years of infertility.

If anyone wants to chat about IVF, you can always PM me. IVF can often be very intimidating b/c of the high price tag, but it isn't all that different from medicated IUIs... just one extra step!

Good luck ladies!

OMG... congrats!!!!!!!!!!! i'm so happy for you!!!!

BearyT · Oct 1st, 2009, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by beejerry

I've had 2 IUIs and 1 IUI with injectionables, all failed. I've endo so no clomid for me, Dr won't prescribed it at all. IVF scheduled this coming Dec/Jan. I'm doing acupuncture and taking Chinese herbs to help ease my endo so my body will be prepared for the IVF. Will do a follow-up ultrasound this Nov w/ my IVF Dr.

It has been a long, long journey for me. The ups and downs are considered normal. The frustration is a monthly thing like the AF

I'm taking it one day at a time.

I hope you still remember me

I'm sending LOADSSSSSSSSS of Babydust your way!!!!!!!!!!!

KristyDarling · Oct 1st, 2009, 12:33 PM

Hi all! I know this is about current/future fertility treatments but just thought I'd share my past experience in case it helps others. I know how stressful and emotional the process is. I underwent fertility treatments in 2001-2002 and 2004. I had an apple-sized pre-existing uterine fibroid discovered when I was 24, which my gynie said could pose a problem for conception. We started trying when I was 27, and I charted my BBT for 6 months - the pattern was odd, very zig-zaggy with no clear ovulation date. Plus, my cycles were on the long side, around 40 days. Even though we had only been trying for 6 months, my gynie decided to preemptively send me to a fertility specialist because she agreed that my chart looked odd and she was worried about how my fibroid impacted my fertility.

So, I had my first few visits to my RE, he ran all the requisite tests on DH and me, sperm analysis, blood tests, HSG, etc. Turns out I had the FSH level of a 45 year old! He also wasn't sure, but he thought I *might* have PCOS - I had some but not all of the typical signs of PCOS. (to this day I still don't know if I have it, since he couldn't say definitively) So, he started me on Clomid - we tried for 3 months on it, and nothing. He then put me on a higher dose for 2 more months - still nothing. Since my FSH was so high, instead of increasing the Clomid dose further, he decided to accelerate things and had me do injectables with intercourse. I was freaked out by the daily injections, but guess what - it worked on the first try! (my son is now 6 years old) He monitored me via ultrasound and saw that I ovulated only about 3 eggs, which is on the low side for an injectables treatment. But that didn't matter because it was successful. His theory was that for whatever reason, my body wouldn't ovulate and it required strong drugs to make it happen.

10 months after my son was born, we decided to do another cycle of injectables. Again, because of my high FSH, time was of the essence. And again, I conceived on my first cycle of injectables+intercourse. (my daughter is now 4 1/2).

It was a stressful, agonizing time because we were given the "You may never conceive because your FSH is so high" speech. We were looking into adoption while trying to conceive. It was hard seeing my friends get pregnant with zero effort. I remember feeling like a freak of nature because I was only in my late 20's, and I was really down on myself. But, we were so fortunate that we were able to find the right treatment protocol to get me to ovulate. So for everyone undergoing treatment right now, try to stay positive, patient, and be strong.

Dawn · Oct 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM

thanks for sharing kristydarling! congrats on both of your kids!

my h's SA results are in and they aren't great

my biggest concern is the morphology which is only 11. my nurse said the doctor will call me when she gets back from vacation next week to explain more, but she thinks they will recommend we skip over clomid and go right to IUI. i'm trying not to cry.

my h wasn't really excited about doing ANY fertility treatment - even clomid - so now i'm just a little freaked that *he's* going to freak about skipping a 'step' and going to the next one. i know i should get sad or upset without even talking to him, but we've had many conversations about this.

tabbyco · Oct 2nd, 2009, 01:26 PM

Dawn, take morphology numbers with a grain of salt... there isn't any hard proof that a misshapened sperm can't get you as pregnant as a "perfectly" shaped sperm. Also, your DH can have 3 different SAs and have three very different morph #'s.... my Dh did. Honestly, the lab determining the morph can be kind of subjective. DH had 2 different labs run his SA's and one said he had 1% morph and the other one said normal.

Don't sweat moving on from Clomid, your dr. might be doing you a favor. Few people actually have success on Clomid b/c it thins the lining so much that implantation can't take place.

I know how emotional and frustrating this all is b/c we are taught at such a young age that we are all equally fertile and we believe it until we start trying... I tried to think about it this way to take the emotional sting out... if I had another medical condition, say allergies, and the treatment wasn't working, would I be emotional moving on to allergy shots? Probably not... would I feel like I had failed or there was something wrong with me b/c I had allergies? Absolutely not... but for some reason infertility does this to us... it messes with our head, emotions and esteem. But it doesn't have to....

Sorry for the tangent

Dawn · Oct 4th, 2009, 06:03 PM

tabbyco - thank you SO MUCH. that does help me feel better

h definitely took the news much better than i expected. he wants to talk to the doctor himself and get information about the increased % risk of multiples (his biggest fear, which means it will prob happen! HAHA) and all that stuff. i hope we can talk to her this week.
thanks again - sharing with others who have been through this is really educational and the support is so important!

Dawn · Oct 5th, 2009, 12:56 PM

so our doctor called and she said his results are normal and that we can go ahead with clomid (monitored)...i think i only want to try it once or twice and then move on to IUI.

hopefully only once!

BurberryLvr · Oct 5th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Dawn - My DH's morphology was 0 and we were told IVF with ICSI was our only option but we wound up getting pregnant with our last IUI cycle (w/ Menopur injectables). So don't lose hope! Baby dust to you!

Lola · Oct 9th, 2009, 01:00 PM

I took 1 1/2 clomid pills for 5 days--this is my third round of clomid. I'll find out on Sunday if it did anything.

Oct 1st, 2009, 12:33 PM	#34
KristyDarling Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,355	Hi all! I know this is about current/future fertility treatments but just thought I'd share my past experience in case it helps others. I know how stressful and emotional the process is. I underwent fertility treatments in 2001-2002 and 2004. I had an apple-sized pre-existing uterine fibroid discovered when I was 24, which my gynie said could pose a problem for conception. We started trying when I was 27, and I charted my BBT for 6 months - the pattern was odd, very zig-zaggy with no clear ovulation date. Plus, my cycles were on the long side, around 40 days. Even though we had only been trying for 6 months, my gynie decided to preemptively send me to a fertility specialist because she agreed that my chart looked odd and she was worried about how my fibroid impacted my fertility. So, I had my first few visits to my RE, he ran all the requisite tests on DH and me, sperm analysis, blood tests, HSG, etc. Turns out I had the FSH level of a 45 year old! He also wasn't sure, but he thought I might have PCOS - I had some but not all of the typical signs of PCOS. (to this day I still don't know if I have it, since he couldn't say definitively) So, he started me on Clomid - we tried for 3 months on it, and nothing. He then put me on a higher dose for 2 more months - still nothing. Since my FSH was so high, instead of increasing the Clomid dose further, he decided to accelerate things and had me do injectables with intercourse. I was freaked out by the daily injections, but guess what - it worked on the first try! (my son is now 6 years old) He monitored me via ultrasound and saw that I ovulated only about 3 eggs, which is on the low side for an injectables treatment. But that didn't matter because it was successful. His theory was that for whatever reason, my body wouldn't ovulate and it required strong drugs to make it happen. 10 months after my son was born, we decided to do another cycle of injectables. Again, because of my high FSH, time was of the essence. And again, I conceived on my first cycle of injectables+intercourse. (my daughter is now 4 1/2). It was a stressful, agonizing time because we were given the "You may never conceive because your FSH is so high" speech. We were looking into adoption while trying to conceive. It was hard seeing my friends get pregnant with zero effort. I remember feeling like a freak of nature because I was only in my late 20's, and I was really down on myself. But, we were so fortunate that we were able to find the right treatment protocol to get me to ovulate. So for everyone undergoing treatment right now, try to stay positive, patient, and be strong.
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Oct 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM	#35
Dawn OP mj mod Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 17,534	thanks for sharing kristydarling! congrats on both of your kids! my h's SA results are in and they aren't great my biggest concern is the morphology which is only 11. my nurse said the doctor will call me when she gets back from vacation next week to explain more, but she thinks they will recommend we skip over clomid and go right to IUI. i'm trying not to cry. my h wasn't really excited about doing ANY fertility treatment - even clomid - so now i'm just a little freaked that he's going to freak about skipping a 'step' and going to the next one. i know i should get sad or upset without even talking to him, but we've had many conversations about this.
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Oct 2nd, 2009, 01:26 PM	#36
tabbyco Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Right Coast Posts: 2,330	Dawn, take morphology numbers with a grain of salt... there isn't any hard proof that a misshapened sperm can't get you as pregnant as a "perfectly" shaped sperm. Also, your DH can have 3 different SAs and have three very different morph #'s.... my Dh did. Honestly, the lab determining the morph can be kind of subjective. DH had 2 different labs run his SA's and one said he had 1% morph and the other one said normal. Don't sweat moving on from Clomid, your dr. might be doing you a favor. Few people actually have success on Clomid b/c it thins the lining so much that implantation can't take place. I know how emotional and frustrating this all is b/c we are taught at such a young age that we are all equally fertile and we believe it until we start trying... I tried to think about it this way to take the emotional sting out... if I had another medical condition, say allergies, and the treatment wasn't working, would I be emotional moving on to allergy shots? Probably not... would I feel like I had failed or there was something wrong with me b/c I had allergies? Absolutely not... but for some reason infertility does this to us... it messes with our head, emotions and esteem. But it doesn't have to.... Sorry for the tangent
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Oct 4th, 2009, 06:03 PM	#37
Dawn OP mj mod Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 17,534	tabbyco - thank you SO MUCH. that does help me feel better h definitely took the news much better than i expected. he wants to talk to the doctor himself and get information about the increased % risk of multiples (his biggest fear, which means it will prob happen! HAHA) and all that stuff. i hope we can talk to her this week. thanks again - sharing with others who have been through this is really educational and the support is so important!
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Oct 5th, 2009, 12:56 PM	#38
Dawn OP mj mod Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 17,534	so our doctor called and she said his results are normal and that we can go ahead with clomid (monitored)...i think i only want to try it once or twice and then move on to IUI. hopefully only once!
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Oct 5th, 2009, 02:13 PM	#39
BurberryLvr Doting on Baby Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,045	Dawn - My DH's morphology was 0 and we were told IVF with ICSI was our only option but we wound up getting pregnant with our last IUI cycle (w/ Menopur injectables). So don't lose hope! Baby dust to you!
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Oct 9th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#40
Lola Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 890	I took 1 1/2 clomid pills for 5 days--this is my third round of clomid. I'll find out on Sunday if it did anything.
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