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Miu Miu lovin'!
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team edward. always.
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oh my...if he is found guilty he should get the maximum that is allowed!
why in the world is a 14yr old boy sexually abusing a 4yr old and then killing them?? once again i ask what is wrong with our world!?!?! so this makes me feel better about being so protective of my children! |
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It's just the modern version of performing a ritual sacrifice to appease the evil spirits that caused the mental illness.
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Miu Miu lovin'!
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A 14 year old!?
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What I want to know is where was the 4 year old's parents? Surely somebody was supposed to watch him. This is sick and the 14 year old needs to be tried as an adult and get the maximum amount of punishment allowed. Sick individual.
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^ Supposedly, the 4 year old's parents were inside, while he was playing outside in their yard. I personally don't see why they would think it would be safe to leave a 4 year old outside unattended, and being next door neighbors the families might have been on familiar terms so the 4 year old probably knew the 14 year old and thought nothing of going over to his house. I wonder if the families may have even been on such familiar terms that they knew each other and it may not have been so uncommon. I also have to wonder where the 14 year old's parents were. They were said to be "out of town" at the time, but didn't they see any warning signs that there was something mentally/morally wrong with this kid? Wasn't there red flags of some sort? I am glad he is being tried as an adult and he should get the maximum sentence possible.
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Joined: Oct 2006
Location: England
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There are so many horrible stories in the news lately about teenagers committing horrible crimes. Are they on the rise or is it the internet just spreading news faster? I hate hearing stories about children being murdered. I hope the boy gets the max prison time and some serious therapy.
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Joined: Sep 2007
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how sad for everyone involved
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J'aime l'ananas!
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: California
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^ The local news said that the 14 y.o.'s mother babysat the 4 y.o. often...this is just so tragic.
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Joined: Nov 2006
Location: New York
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OMG, I am in TEARS reading this story. How could a 14 year old do something so evil! It hurts my heart to think about how this little boy suffered up until he died.
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Yes, and yes. Obviously, technology has made more news stories of all kinds available to more people. Maybe not so obvious, societies, like individuals, make choices, and just as with individuals, those choices have consequences. When a society, a culture, is not on the rise, there are other things that will be. If you've clicked around the internets, and read comments about this story, a couple of things will stand out: Few people are asking where this 14 year old got the idea to sexually abuse a 4 year old. This is not something that a healthy 14 year old just naturally does, even if they've read about it on a website or in a magazine. The overwhelming sense of public reaction has to do with basically punishing a child for having an illness, very probably punishing a child for being a victim of abuse himself. We don't see a lot of people asking, "what can we, as a society, do to prevent this from happening to other children?" The emphasis is not on protection but revenge and punishment, not on preventing more stories like this, but on perpetuating the brutality, becoming part of it. From one perspective, you look at human history, and you see so many advances in knowledge, so much potential for using that knowledge to move forward, to progress. But shift your head a little, and just like a crystal with an aurora borealis finish, you see something completely different - a rejection of that knowledge, an aversion to the concept of moving forward, of improving ourselves, our environment, and in its place, not just a stubborn stagnation, but an active, almost compulsive clinging to obsolete ideas that harm us. Most of us know, at least intellectually, that mental illness is neither a "lifestyle choice" nor the work of those proverbial "evil spirits," but just an illness. Most of us, if pressed, will acknowledge that untreated mental illness can be very dangerous. It can result in acts that do great harm to, even take the lives of the patient himself as well as others. Yet in a group, we consistently make collective choices that do not treat mental illness as a disease, but a stigma, a crime, an indication of "evil." We choose not to treat mental illness. Instead of using all that knowledge, all those advances, to protect us, we try to take refuge in those antiquated, harmful beliefs that do the opposite! Whether this child's illness is purely the result of chemical imbalance or other organic process, or whether it was precipitated or exacerbated by harm done to him by an adult with an untreated mental illness, somebody, somewhere, noticed something, and didn't want to think about it, didn't want to go there. Maybe someone saw him crying, and turned away, "so they wouldn't embarrass" him, they told themselves. Maybe a neighbor had a "weird" feeling about the house where he lived, about his family, about him, just a vague notion of creepiness, nothing really concrete to base it on, and so they shook it off, and forced themselves to just think about something else. Maybe someone saw something, a touch, a word, a tone, either to the child, from him, or both, that didn't seem quite right. But, they said to themselves, it's none of my business. Maybe someone perceived that something about him seemed a little - well, they weren't sure quite what. But, they said to themselves, "all kids that age can sometimes seem a little - well, I'm not sure quite what." A teacher or counselor at school may have noticed something that their knowledge, their skills in using all those modern scientific advances, suggested might be a little troubling, a little off. But it just didn't rise to the level of imperative and immediate action, and because mental and emotional illness do have such a cultural stigma, it is only natural that even a professional with specialized education in the field may tend to "err on the side of caution," because labeling a child as having mental illness can impact his future, even into adulthood, because mental illness is, in so many cases, basically considered by society to be a crime. And suffering from the illness is not considered anywhere near "punishment" enough. If it does emerge, and I am willing to bet that it will, that the child's illness was caused or worsened by he himself being the victim of harm done to him very similar to some of the things he did to the younger child, in the mind of society, that will not be "punishment" enough either. There are people who right now, in the clarity of hindsight, are wishing they had made different choices, that they had at least followed up a little bit on those vague, unpleasant feelings, those half-formed thoughts and questions. There are even more people who never knew either victim - and this story certainly has 2 victims, and probably more - who are horrified, repulsed, saddened and sickened just reading the news accounts. Even expressions of the rawest, most brutal expressions of our basest, lowest human urges are presented as being on behalf of the younger victim. But we see very, very few expressions of a desire to prevent the next story like this, all the stories like this, whether they make it into the newspapers or not, (and anyone who thinks that they all do needs the comfort of that thought for their own mental health). Bishop Tutu once said "We are a work in progress." The day when we can read a story like this and say "This child must get immediate help! What awful things will have happened to him, that a child could do such things to another child! We must prevent this from happening again by getting treatment to people with such a dangerous and harmful illness!" will be the day we have made a lump of progress more important, more valuable to our species than the day we learned to walk on two legs instead of four. |
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Nuts. Just nuts. Maybe he'll get sodomized in jail and learn a lesson, or two.
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