Ok,Jo came up with a couple of the easiest and best ideas to use and keep up to date with,how do these sound? 1 Modelling Pictures (giving heights,leathers,styles etc) no chatting 2 Picture Reference Library, all styles,colors,leathers and dates if possible. no chatting. Both of these will naturally update as time passes etc and they may be all out of synch at first,but at least there is something there to send newbies to to help them out!! PLUS!!!! How many are going to want these threads up and running before Christmas day!!!! I'm sure they will be innundated with lots of pics of drunk Mulberry owners trying to model their bags!!! So shall we vote and then ask Swanky to install them for us? Or is there any more ideas??