I saw another thread on just "stay put" eyeliner, but I have already tried some of that stuff. My eyes water, especially in the outer corners, and my eyeliner in the outer corners is either gone or smudged within a few hours of application. I feel like I have tried everything. The last thing I used was Dior's waterproof pencil. The SA promised me it was the only thing on the planet that would saty on.....WRONG, it totally smudged, once again in those pesky outer corners. The girl at the MAC counter told me I just should not wear eyeliner.....because there is nothing that works WTF???? There has got to be something, help girls!