No probs, 24, I was wondering how we managed to digress to 100 yr old balsamic from BV Carmine bags, LOL. BTW although I am still weighing up my Carmine options I decided to take the plunge and order the large Black Campana because I have been lusting after it for years and some other bag always gets in the way. I've asked for it to be delivered next week as I am staying at my mums for a few days. I will post pics as soon as it arrives. Big :kiss: to C24 and Balchlfen for all their help in my purchase.