I have an ebene with PH clemence evelyn. It is a beautiful dark brown but brown for sure in good lighting. I am looking for a brown colored birkin and have decided on the chocolate or havanne because for one, I am going for GH and I think the choco is better with GH because it is warmer, brown. The ebene is a cooler brown. Saligator gave a very accurate description, two different coffee beans. One dark robust coffee and the other, milder milky choco. a good place to look is on ebay where people have choco bags in various leathers and hardwares for sale and you can also find the ebene, mostly with PH. try to compare the pics from indoors to indoors and outdoors to outdoors. Ebene is definitely not black, but it will go with black, but side by side they are very different. good luck