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everything posh · Nov 4th, 2009, 06:32 PM

I just started watching this season and I really just cannot stand Clay. After this last episode I believe all hell will break loose with Jax thinking that Clay burned Caracara!

MichelleAntonia · Nov 5th, 2009, 04:45 AM

omg it just doesn't let it up, it's soooo good this season!

natalie78 · Nov 5th, 2009, 12:03 PM

Darby's body is somewhere in the charred building. That will get pinned on SAMCRO by Zoebell. But anyone else womdering what happened to two-fingers? I cannot remember his name, but he was in the office at Caracara. I have a feeling that he survived.

MichelleAntonia · Nov 5th, 2009, 06:55 PM

^really, i didn't catch that! i had assumed darby got away with the rest of his gang!...

piperlu · Nov 5th, 2009, 07:30 PM

I only started watching this season, but have missed a few. I love it already, and it is edgey like The Shield (which I miss).

Can someone quickly fill me in on who Donna was and why was she murdered? Which one is Tig?

MichelleAntonia · Nov 5th, 2009, 11:35 PM

i'm too lazy to type it out, from wiki:

Donna Winston (Sprague Grayden) was Opie's wife and the mother of his two children. She didn't trust SAMCRO after Opie served extensive jail time for the club. Donna and Opie went through a difficult time in their marriage and came close to separating, but Donna had a change of heart after Opie was set up by the ATF agent Stahl to look like an informant. Inspired by the bad image of Opie's mom who separated from Piney and took Opie away, Donna resolves her feelings and seems OK with Opie being a member of SAMCRO. However the turnaround comes too late as Clay falls for Agent Stahl's game. When Clay Morrow ordered Tig to kill Opie in "The Sleep of Babies" episode, Tig killed Donna by mistake. Opie is as yet unaware of this. Jax and Piney strongly suspect the truth, although they do not have any proof.

this is tig, clay's right hand man

MichelleAntonia · Nov 5th, 2009, 11:37 PM

also, clay wanted the hit to look like the niner's did it, in retaliation to a shootout/beef they had recently had. so opie, and most everyone else, still thinks it was them.

piperlu · Nov 6th, 2009, 06:40 AM

^^Thank you for bringing me up to date. I appreciate it!

natalie78 · Nov 6th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by MichelleAntonia

^really, i didn't catch that! i had assumed darby got away with the rest of his gang!...

Just before they set the fire, two of the guys jumped Darby. I don't think it showed Darby going down, but I don't think he was meant to leave alive.

MichelleAntonia · Nov 6th, 2009, 06:41 PM

^ooooh ok. so his guys blame him for the mess with the meth lab, the fact that he allowed clay to come blow it up?

natalie78 · Nov 6th, 2009, 07:48 PM

I don't think they were Darby's guys. They were Zoebell's enforcers. The whole thing was orchestrated by Zoebell.

I wonder what's going down with the IRA?

MichelleAntonia · Nov 6th, 2009, 10:40 PM

^ok i got it now. sometimes so much happens in one episode, it's hard to catch it all!

i'm also very curious about the IRA.. it looks like they're setting them up to be the next big nemisis. i was also wondering who the heck 'johnny o' is. they seem legitimately afraid of him...

natalie78 · Nov 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM

He must be some IRA bad*ss for everyone to be so afraid of him. Maybe a hitman?

MichelleAntonia · Nov 7th, 2009, 06:47 PM

^all i know is who is going to play him. i'm so totally excited, being a deadwood and lost fan

everything posh · Nov 11th, 2009, 10:31 AM

Finally Gemma told Jax and Clay what happened to her. I think she thought that was the only way to keep Jax from going nomad. I think we are in for a whole lot of retaliation from the Sons against Zoebell. I hope that sleaze ball gets what he deserves!

Nov 4th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#16
everything posh Member Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Athens, London, San Jose!! Posts: 1,659	I just started watching this season and I really just cannot stand Clay. After this last episode I believe all hell will break loose with Jax thinking that Clay burned Caracara!
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Nov 5th, 2009, 04:45 AM	#17
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	omg it just doesn't let it up, it's soooo good this season!
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 5th, 2009, 06:55 PM	#19
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	^really, i didn't catch that! i had assumed darby got away with the rest of his gang!...
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 5th, 2009, 07:30 PM	#20
piperlu ~ Peltro Heaven ~ Joined: Jun 2006 Location: At the beach Posts: 9,395	I only started watching this season, but have missed a few. I love it already, and it is edgey like The Shield (which I miss). Can someone quickly fill me in on who Donna was and why was she murdered? Which one is Tig?
	__________________ Debbie

Nov 5th, 2009, 11:35 PM	#21
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	i'm too lazy to type it out, from wiki: Donna Winston (Sprague Grayden) was Opie's wife and the mother of his two children. She didn't trust SAMCRO after Opie served extensive jail time for the club. Donna and Opie went through a difficult time in their marriage and came close to separating, but Donna had a change of heart after Opie was set up by the ATF agent Stahl to look like an informant. Inspired by the bad image of Opie's mom who separated from Piney and took Opie away, Donna resolves her feelings and seems OK with Opie being a member of SAMCRO. However the turnaround comes too late as Clay falls for Agent Stahl's game. When Clay Morrow ordered Tig to kill Opie in "The Sleep of Babies" episode, Tig killed Donna by mistake. Opie is as yet unaware of this. Jax and Piney strongly suspect the truth, although they do not have any proof. this is tig, clay's right hand man
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 5th, 2009, 12:03 PM	#18
natalie78 Dave's not here Joined: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,665	Darby's body is somewhere in the charred building. That will get pinned on SAMCRO by Zoebell. But anyone else womdering what happened to two-fingers? I cannot remember his name, but he was in the office at Caracara. I have a feeling that he survived.

Nov 5th, 2009, 11:37 PM	#22
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	also, clay wanted the hit to look like the niner's did it, in retaliation to a shootout/beef they had recently had. so opie, and most everyone else, still thinks it was them.
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 6th, 2009, 06:40 AM	#23
piperlu ~ Peltro Heaven ~ Joined: Jun 2006 Location: At the beach Posts: 9,395	^^Thank you for bringing me up to date. I appreciate it!
	__________________ Debbie

Nov 6th, 2009, 06:41 PM	#25
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	^ooooh ok. so his guys blame him for the mess with the meth lab, the fact that he allowed clay to come blow it up?
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 6th, 2009, 07:48 PM	#26
natalie78 Dave's not here Joined: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,665	I don't think they were Darby's guys. They were Zoebell's enforcers. The whole thing was orchestrated by Zoebell. I wonder what's going down with the IRA?

Nov 6th, 2009, 10:40 PM	#27
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	^ok i got it now. sometimes so much happens in one episode, it's hard to catch it all! i'm also very curious about the IRA.. it looks like they're setting them up to be the next big nemisis. i was also wondering who the heck 'johnny o' is. they seem legitimately afraid of him...
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 7th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#28
natalie78 Dave's not here Joined: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,665	He must be some IRA bad*ss for everyone to be so afraid of him. Maybe a hitman?

Nov 7th, 2009, 06:47 PM	#29
MichelleAntonia An InBetweener Joined: Jan 2007 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 7,203	^all i know is who is going to play him. i'm so totally excited, being a deadwood and lost fan
	__________________ As the great warrior-poet Ice Cube once said, 'If the day does not require the use of an AK, it is good.'

Nov 11th, 2009, 10:31 AM	#30
everything posh Member Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Athens, London, San Jose!! Posts: 1,659	Finally Gemma told Jax and Clay what happened to her. I think she thought that was the only way to keep Jax from going nomad. I think we are in for a whole lot of retaliation from the Sons against Zoebell. I hope that sleaze ball gets what he deserves!
	__________________

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