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Cedes · Aug 18th, 2009, 02:59 AM

I've loved this show from the start.. I've always been a fan of the 50's and 60's era so I immediately wanted to watch this when it first began airing, just for the costumes alone. (Betty's polka-dot party dress in the 2nd season is something I'd love to have hanging in my closet.) I haven't watched the season premiere yet but it's on my Tivo so I'm excited to see it.

I loved that Duck didn't know about Don not having a contract. Very much looking forward to seeing how this conflict will play out.

Originally Posted by Charles

This will never happen. Pete is a whiny little bitch who doesn't have a creative bone in his body. If he stays around it's cause he's stolen someone else's ideas.

^Not only that, but clearly it has never been Pete's dream to be a good ad man. He wants the power, money, and perks. He'd be just as happy in some other industry, so long as he was still able to fast-track himself to the top.

Charles · Aug 18th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Exactly...when he was whining to his wife about the promotion, he never once mentioned the industry, customer service or creativity. It was about him, his image, and his "power". It seems as if the upper execs know of this, and his kiss assing, and are trying to use this to get him out.

ssc0619 · Aug 18th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Cedes

^Not only that, but clearly it has never been Pete's dream to be a good ad man. He wants the power, money, and perks. He'd be just as happy in some other industry, so long as he was still able to fast-track himself to the top.

I agree, so tell me how is it that no one has figured that out? Why does he still have a job? I can hardly stand it when he is on screen. How do people stand to be in the room with him?

ssc0619 · Aug 18th, 2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheGoodWife

We'll probably see how the Duck Phillips thing played out in a flashback soon. As I recall, in the last episode last season, Duck thought he had manuvered Don Draper out, and at a meeting with the bigwigs said that Don's contract had a non-competition clause, so Don could not go into the advertising biz. Don calmly said that he didn't have a contract, at which point Duck turned white.

Ok, that's exactly what I remembered. But when this episode didn't even refer to it I thought....maybe I missed an episode!

ssc0619 · Aug 18th, 2009, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Charles

This will never happen. Pete is a whiny little bitch who doesn't have a creative bone in his body. If he stays around it's cause he's stolen someone else's ideas.

ita!! I just hate him!

ChicBoBeep · Aug 18th, 2009, 10:50 AM

^ me too, i always feel bad for his wife!

Loquita · Aug 18th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by ssc0619

I agree, so tell me how is it that no one has figured that out? Why does he still have a job? I can hardly stand it when he is on screen. How do people stand to be in the room with him?

Ha ha ha...I always think the same thing!! I loathe Pete Campbell...though you have to admit the actor who plays him is perfectly cast (as are the others on the show). However, he's so massively insecure that I do feel a teeny bit sorry for him.

I also love the fact that Duck Phillips was blind-sided by Don's lack of contract. I disliked Duck virtually from the beginning, but that feeling really intensified when he abandoned his dog onto the NYC streets. In my world, you don't mess with the animals.

Loquita · Aug 18th, 2009, 04:34 PM

Cedes, I also love the aesthetics of the show!! The clothing is amazing for the most part...Betty's costumes are something I also look forward to, and I also think that Joan is drop-dead gorgeous.

dbtbandit67 · Aug 18th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Pete did show one flash of creativity over the Kennedy/Nixon radio ads. I guess Cooper sees a little of himself in Pete.

Zero loyalty, willing to abandon anyone for success. Duck liked how Pete was willing to exploit his fathers death in order to land American Airlines as a client.

It's the Rockefeller/Triple H complex. Willing to do anything for success. No more sympathy trips, Pete needs to establish himself as the clear cut heel of the show

CCfor C · Aug 18th, 2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Charles

To me, it's not about relating. It's about a great story, wardrobe, and set design. I didn't relate to any of the characters of Sopranos, but it was still a show I loved.

I think Peggy is one of the best characters.

Agree on all counts...like Peggy's character and find her interesting.

onegirlcreative · Aug 18th, 2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by peace43

I saw the actress, Elizabeth Moss (Peggy), in real life back in May 2009. She was on the same flight (LAX to JFK) as me. She sat in first class with her sunglasses on the entire time and didn't smile. I bumped into her as she was coming out of the restroom and I was waiting to go in (and no, I wasn't in first class).

geez, really? get over yourself, elizabeth. sat the entire flight with her sunglasses on? does she think she's angelina???

Charles · Aug 18th, 2009, 11:11 PM

Perhaps she had a bad day. I know when I missed my flight home and had to sleep on the floor in JFK, I certainly wasn't in a chipper mood on my 7am flight home.

onegirlcreative · Aug 19th, 2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Charles

Perhaps she had a bad day. I know when I missed my flight home and had to sleep on the floor in JFK, I certainly wasn't in a chipper mood on my 7am flight home.

not if your a$$ was sitting in first class the whole flight. lol

Cedes · Aug 19th, 2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Loquita

Cedes, I also love the aesthetics of the show!! The clothing is amazing for the most part...Betty's costumes are something I also look forward to, and I also think that Joan is drop-dead gorgeous.

Yes, Joan is SO gorgeous! I absolutely loathed her character on Firefly, but adore her in Mad Men.

If I'm not mistaken, the assumption by everyone who knew or knew of Pete was that his family was quite wealthy and it wasn't revealed until the Flight 1 episode that his father had run them into the ground? My guess would be that he got the job and has come as far as he has on the coattails of his father's success, or by use of his last name. When he brought in his father-in-law's ad that also added to his worth. I was quite surprised he wasn't fired when he lost the account over personal reasons, though.

I'm hoping Colin Hanks will be back on this season.. I liked the dynamic he and Peggy had going, even though it was quite painful.

Jayne1 · Aug 19th, 2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by ssc0619

I agree, so tell me how is it that no one has figured that out? Why does he still have a job? I can hardly stand it when he is on screen. How do people stand to be in the room with him?

Cooper wants him there... remember in Season 1? He want's Pete's family's connections.

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Charles Sucks at budgeting Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 6,184	Perhaps she had a bad day. I know when I missed my flight home and had to sleep on the floor in JFK, I certainly wasn't in a chipper mood on my 7am flight home.
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