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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:36 PM   #1
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This is sort of inspired from another thread thats up at the moment about guys who keep changing their minds - and the girl being the unfortunate person who has to suffer each time he makes a change.

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Im 21 years old and I recently broke up with a guy named Dan, 22. We met 4 years ago and became INSANELY close friends for 2 years. We even lived together for one year. You never saw one of us without the other. It was the best friendship Ive ever had with anyone. Then we realised our true feelings for each other and began dating. We dated for nearly 2 years. I was about to ask him to move out with me because I was dead-serious bout making us work. He is the only man ive ever loved, and the first real relationship ive had.

We were the type of couple that was always bickering - but not over anything huge. Id get upset if he didnt return my calls, ditched our plans at the last minute to go drinking with his friends, etc. But in October 2007 (towards the end of our relationship), things began to escalate. He's a chef that works full time so hes constantly stressed, tired and aggitated. Bad mix! He usually had a good temper around me though and hardly ever took it out on me. He was good like that! But he began to snap alot. He'd shout at me, throw things at me, give me the silent treatment, etc. It was my 21st birthday in that month and I remember he completley ruined the night.

He worked at the same venue that I was celebrating at. He finished his shift and I naturally thought he would join my friends and I. I hadnt seen or spoken to him the whole day. He walked out to where we were. He was sweaty and looked really, really tired. I waved him over to us. He gave me a cold nod, and walked outside to have a ciggarette. After waiting for 45 MINUTES!! for him to reappear, I walked outside to find him. He was sitting in the smoking area with his friend Tom, both smoking and drinking beer, watching the soccer match on tv. I got really upset because he flat out refused to join me. My friends came over to see where I had gone and they witnessed a big fight between me and Dan. He insulted me, he insulted my friends, then draining the last of his beer, he picked up his keys and stormed out. I was just standing there in a party dress, crying, watching him walk away.

4 days later, he called me up on my mobile phone while he was out at a bar drinking with his friends. He dumped me. I remember the phone call went for 20 minutes - basically me crying my eyes out asking him "Why?"
To this very day, I have no idea why he dumped me. He avoided giving an answer each time.

2 weeks later, in November, we bumped into each other. He was very sorry and teary-eyed when he confronted me. He wasnt being sleazy, but he asked me for a hug "Coz its been far too long since our last one". Long story short, I ended up back at his place. We kissed, we hugged, I stayed over (nothing more happened). We spent the next day together, hanging out as a couple again. It was great. It was like we just needed that 2 week break yknow? I stayed over his place again that night and I fell asleep in his arms, listening to him say "You are my princess.. I love you."
The next day, monday, he sent me a txt msg saying "I cant do this." and he completly ignored me.

WTF!! Well I cut off all communication! I blocked him from myspace, facebook, hotmail, changed my mobile phone number. All of that. YES, I was heartbroken and depressed BEYOND words but I was so, so angry aswell. Because of this action, he was gone from my life through November, December and January. But, at the end of January, I accidently called his phone. (I was meant to call Dad but accidently called Dan as they were next to each other in my phonebook). He got my number, begins sending me txt msgs about how he had been trying to contact me for 2 months "Becoz breaking up with you was a mistake. A huge f***ing mistake.", etc, etc. Im not that easy to sway so we talked about 'us' for ages. Last week, I agreed to meet him - just to watch a movie and hang out like the friends we once were.

We talked for HOURS... he told me how "
I'm still in love wit u. I still wake up though the nite wishing u were there next to me.I was serious when I said id marry you. You mean the world to me and always will. I feel so empty with out u." He kissed me and things got a little hot and heavy... But I thought "Oh my gosh! Im kissing the guy that hurt me!"
So I backed off and said "I cant go from zero to a hundred in one night Dan. You really hurt me. Theres alot we need to work out." He totally understood and said "I dont want to rush anything, because Im afraid I will f**k things up again." I was at least grateful that he was willing to try and take it slow for me.

The next day, I sent him a txt msg saying I was happy that we are hanging out again and trying to work through our problems, "..but until I know where we stand, I thinik we should lay off the physical side of things because that will just confuse us."
He didnt take that well. He got very angry and said "You know where you stand!" But after explaining that "I need time and patience. I need you to give me that to know if this is going to work", he apologised and said "I am willing to give you all the time in the world. Because I am serious about us. You have no idea."

Its been 10 days since he said that^^^ because...... surprise, surprise! He's ignoring me again. Im talking, WILL NOT reply to anything I do. Wont even wave to me in public!


Advice? Hard criticism?? Trust me, I need both! I need help. Im at a fork-in-the-road...
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #2
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Okay, so Dan's back. Is he still using drugs?
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #3
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Have you gone back to read your previous thread? 'Cause when I got halfway through your post I thought that surely this was the old thread bumped & I had to look at the date. Nothing seems to have changed...except that he picked you up and dumped you again.

I think it's pretty obvious that this guy is toxic to your life ... don't ever let him drag you in again...
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #4
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Him and his friends have said "Dan isnt using drugs anymore. We do, we're pressured him to do them with us. But he wont."

very confusing...
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #5
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Let him go. I was in a really intense on-and-off relationship like this for two years. He just couldn't make up his mind about what he wanted, and cheated on me a few times. He'd be a complete a$$ one day, yelling at me and telling me he never wanted to see me again, then the next - crying and apologizing and begging me back. It was so emotionally draining, and I was always depressed for such a long time while I was going through this. My friends and family hated him for what he was doing to me. Walking away from the whole situation was the best thing I ever did for myself, and although I know it's not what you want to hear (it was definitely not what I wanted to hear), it's probably what's best for you. After all, how long do you plan on dragging this out and allowing him to play with your emotions like this? Know your self worth and realize that you deserve someone who KNOWS you're what he wants. Good luck!
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #6
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Him and his friends have said "Dan isnt using drugs anymore. We do, we're pressured him to do them with us. But he wont."

very confusing...
He seems to have quite a peculiar personality. Trust me, you don't need the hassle.
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #7
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I think almost all of us will say that it is time to move on, far, far away from this yo-yo-ing.
I suggest you take a look at what you wrote and try to read it as if it were someone else's story.
What would your opinion be for that fellow tpfer?
I am pretty sure your advice would be to move on.
Stay strong, stay positive!! Best of luck!
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #8
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So I guess the girl he cheated on you with dumped him, was she 17 or 18?


I honestly can't believe you would have suggested taking him back, albeit "slowly"..He's addicted to drugs, and he cheated on you. Delete his number from your cell, don't call or text him. If he starts calling you again, change your number. Move on, he will never be the person you once knew.
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #9
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Its definatley the hardest thing ever...

Im the logical type so I think, and think, and think, and think over something constantly. Him? Hes very impulsive and erratic.... One thing Ive learned about Dan is, he will do whatever he wants whenever he wants.

Whatever outcome this may have, I guess my main question is:
Why would he spend so much time and effort to chase me non-frickin-stop for months only to discard me and ignore me the moment i reappear in his life?

I mean... hes had nearly four months... In that time, he could have moved on. Or, if I was what he really did want, he would have had alot of time to reflect on his behaviour and change.

Why would he go to so much effort to just.... throw it away like that?
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #10
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Why would he go to so much effort to just.... throw it away like that?
Maybe he just was at a loose end at that time, and it seemed like a good idea? Men do do that!
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #11
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So I guess the girl he cheated on you with dumped him, was she 17 or 18?
Ahh, yes, Jess (fake name). Shes 18 and continues to hang around the whole group... Though Ive been told its never Jess and Dan one-on-one.

Dan told me that "I kissed her. Two months ago. Nothings there. We are just friends, I dont want anything more then that with jess. I want you."

Gah... The thing with me is, i over-analyse everything... Im not doing too well yknow... like.. its been 4 months and hes all I think about. So many emotions: anger, hurt, depression, etc.
Im not sleeping well, and i hardly ever eat anymore... I keep seeing Jess around town and everytime I see her, I feel sick. I want to cry.

I dont know guys... I dont understand people who constantly change their minds for no particular reason...
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:18 PM   #12
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Maybe he just was at a loose end at that time, and it seemed like a good idea? Men do do that!
See this is why I come here for advice!! Because this is my first real thing with a guy, i dont know whats really going on... I have alot to learn ladies! Any advice/personal experience/insults are appreciated..

I think.. the worst thing about a situation like this is just.... 'not knowing' whats going on.
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:23 PM   #13
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I mean... hes had nearly four months... In that time, he could have moved on. Or, if I was what he really did want, he would have had alot of time to reflect on his behaviour and change.

Why would he go to so much effort to just.... throw it away like that?
Uhhh.....because he wanted to get laid without any effort?
It seems like most of the actual effort is on your part.
Didn't you mention that he pulled away as soon as you said to keep it not so physical?
Sometimes men can be jerks that only think about getting their rocks off....
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Ahh, yes, Jess (fake name). Shes 18 and continues to hang around the whole group... Though Ive been told its never Jess and Dan one-on-one.

Dan told me that "I kissed her. Two months ago. Nothings there. We are just friends, I dont want anything more then that with jess. I want you."

Gah... The thing with me is, i over-analyse everything... Im not doing too well yknow... like.. its been 4 months and hes all I think about. So many emotions: anger, hurt, depression, etc.
Im not sleeping well, and i hardly ever eat anymore... I keep seeing Jess around town and everytime I see her, I feel sick. I want to cry.

I dont know guys... I dont understand people who constantly change their minds for no particular reason...
I don't know why he's giving you false hope either...maybe when Jess fights with him, he turns to you. I don't think he just kissed her, by the way, and I hope you know that isn't true. And his garbage friends were awful to you before, but NOW they are trying to get you guys back together?
I don't think it's a game to him...but maybe he likes drama...he likes having someone pay attention to him and care about him, especially after all the things he's done to you, it's a real ego boost for him if you're willing to take him back. I don't know how to explain his personality or his intentions...all I do know is that he won't stop doing this, he won't one day propose to you and decide he wants to live a normal, happy life. So you must move on.
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Old Feb 14th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #15
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Yeah you're right...
My instincts are telling me that there is way more to him and Jess that meets the eye... she seems scared everytime she sees me. Dan even said she threw a party at her house 3 weeks ago and he was there. Plus, a guy im friends with has seen them together (going out to dinner together).....
Im such an idiot...

Its just... i loved this guy so much... I adored him. For years. And... I cant seem to see the jerk he is now. All i can see is the guy I fell in love with... desperately hoping that he's still there somewhere... but hes not...

We kissed... and he doesnt speak to me for 10 days....

im not entirely sure how you're supposed to move on from someone... people say i should but i dont know how....
It doesnt help that his idiot friends, Tom and Mick, moved into a house just metres up the road from my place.

If I go outside and stand next to my mailbox, I can see their house... I can see Dans car, Jess's car, Toms car... i can hear their big parties... it hurts to know hes in my street all the time... but never to see me.
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