What would you want to know about men?

[lolitakali]

I dunno about all men... but

why is my Father in law more hardworking than my own husband?

why does my DH have eyes but is too lazy to look for 3 sec. longer to see if there is clean clothes in the hamper before putting wet dirty clothes in them?

why is shoving all clothes on the floor into the closet then closing the closet door considered neat so long as it is not in sight?

if he thinks the house is a mess... why don't he tidy it instead of expecting me to keep up to his standards with him doing absolutely nothing?

But... I still make excuses for him.
He is a Polish Mama's boy afterall...

[IcansPotaFake32]

Thanks, Libertine!! Such a nice thread!

[MichelleAntonia]

Originally Posted by lolitakali

But... I still make excuses for him. He is a Polish Mama's boy afterall...

hey, what are you suggesting, huh? (i'm polish )

[MichelleAntonia]

why is it that lots of men my age (later 20s, early 30s), are much more willing to date women up to ten years their junior rather than women their own age?



and, kind of related to that-- what would you say is the fundamental difference between men who date younger women and men who date women their own age? and perhaps men who date older women? what separates these different types of men? is it simply preference, or is there something deeper that dictates that preference?

[mellecyn]

Originally Posted by MichelleAntonia

why is it that lots of men my age (later 20s, early 30s), are much more willing to date women up to ten years their junior rather than women their own age?

Because they are immature, because they don´t feel up to the level of "expectations" they imagine women at that age have, because it´s easier for them to impress younger (read more naive) women.
oooops sorry, Libertine ! What do I know ??? Can´t wait to read the answer of the real man lol

[VPT]

Why don't men pay attention???

Ok I was discussing if our baby should use disposable diapers or cloth diapers to WEAR ON HIS BOTTOM. Yes I was very specific.

DH: cloth!
Me: What?? You want me to do laundry twice a day?
DH: disposals are too expensive!
Me: laundry detergent + utility bills add up too.

Conversation carries on for like 15 minutes escalates to a heated argument (and we hardly argue) and then I realized he was talking about spit. SPIT!! I specified what diapers baby will wear! Grr. Men. Like chicken and duck talking.

[lily25]

Why men talk so rude to each other? It gets worse when they are with their best friends.
Why intelligent, well bred, well educated men would swear so much even in front of a girl??? I feel bad for this girl, she is the singer in my hubby's band, and all she hears is dirty jokes and swearwords.
We are not talking about teenagers, but about 43 +44 year olds, with Phds in law and economics.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by MichelleAntonia

why is it that lots of men my age (later 20s, early 30s), are much more willing to date women up to ten years their junior rather than women their own age? and, kind of related to that-- what would you say is the fundamental difference between men who date younger women and men who date women their own age? and perhaps men who date older women? what separates these different types of men? is it simply preference, or is there something deeper that dictates that preference?

Oh boy, this is going to make me unpopular...

Let me start off by admitting that I am one of the men you're talking about. Same age range, and I'm currently engaged to a girl who is 8 years younger than I am. So, I will mainly be talking about my own experiences here, which aren't likely to be universally true.

With that out of the way... in my experience, many single women between ~25 and ~35 are absolute monsters.

First, there are the ones with baggage. While I generally consider myself to be a good listener, hearing endless rants about specific ex-boyfriends is not my idea of a good time. Especially not on first dates.

Second, there are the ones with plans for the future. While there's nothing wrong with making plans, describing exactly how you want to spend the next fifteen years is enough to ruin any date.

I've actually had two first (and last) dates with different women who both mentioned they wanted to be married and have a child by the time they reached 30. One was 27, the other 28.

Third, there are the ones who brag. Don't get me wrong - confident, successful women are great. But so is modesty. Even if a woman does consider herself to be the pinnacle of human evolution, mentioning it on a date is not a particularly good idea. Because, well, a date isn't an infomercial.

Some random lines I've heard from women on dates:
"Men always fall in love with me."
"All the guys I meet are intimidated by my success."
"It's hard to find a man who is just as intelligent as I am."

And finally, there are the ones with demands. Big, long lists of demands, ranging from somewhat understandable to utterly ridiculous.

Here are the *actual* demands of a close friend of mine, who simply cannot fathom why she is still single:

At least 6' tall, handsome, athletic, dark hair, at least an MA but preferably a PhD from an Ivy League university, six figure income, successful and ambitious, romantic, wants children, loves classical music, has had over 4 but under 10 sexual partners, shares her taste in movies (romcoms) and literature (Kundera), 2-5 years older than she is, wants to spend lots of time with her, dresses well, has a good sense of humor, does not smoke, isn't too hairy, shares her political convictions (liberal), has a creative side (either plays an instrument, writes prose or poetry, or paints), and doesn't have any kids.

Right. That's obviously not going to happen. (although I won't be the one to tell her that)

By contrast - again, in my experience - single women under 25 and over 35 usually appear to be mostly interested in finding someone they simply enjoy spending time with.

I'm entirely sure that there are loads of single women in the 25-35 age range who aren't anything like the horror stories I described above, but the ones who are exactly like those stories are a good reason for men to search for love in other places - or, in this case, ages.

[nooch]

You are forgetting all the manipulative, pathetic, unemployed losers who seek out women between 18-22 because they don't see through their bullshit. I am not discounting what you are talking about, as it makes perfect sense. But lots (and lots and lots) of men who seek out younger women are, as mellecyn said, looking for girls who will take unlimited amounts of bullshit.

[lily25]

The good ones get married soon. The 30+ that are not engaged or married but are willing to, sorry but there must be something wrong with them. I can't explain it other wise.

Quote:

At least 6' tall, handsome, athletic, dark hair, at least an MA but preferably a PhD from an Ivy League university, six figure income, successful and ambitious, romantic, wants children, loves classical music, has had over 4 but under 10 sexual partners, shares her taste in movies (romcoms) and literature (Kundera), 2-5 years older than she is, wants to spend lots of time with her, dresses well, has a good sense of humor, does not smoke, isn't too hairy, shares her political convictions (liberal), has a creative side (either plays an instrument, writes prose or poetry, or paints), and doesn't have any kids.

tell your friend this guy is married to a 23 year old. Too late for her.

[LulaMaeBarnes]

Wow, are you trying to piss off a lot of people Lily?

[callire]

Why do men look like they're about to hyperventilate when I ask for help? I kick arse at Humanities/English, but I'm horrible at Math and Science, so for all my core classes in my worst subjects, I'm very vocal about asking for help. Anyway, so I normally try to sit next to whichever guy has the highest grade in the class (easy to tell), and sometimes during break I'll turn to him and ask "Hey, Dave, did you get #2?" or "Tim, I have no idea how to do this, can you show me?" Then they have this mini-panic attack and look like they're going to hyperventilate, and then after a bit more prodding, they finally help. Seriously. I'm a nice person, so it's not like I'm randomly asking strangers for help or anything.

[REYNALD0C]

Ok, I'm not a woman, but I want a chance to pick at a straight man's mind and get some answers!

Okay, so as a gay male, why do straight men act so weird and defensive around gay males when they first meet? It's weird, because I always get that vibe that they think I am checking them out and "want" them.

Which leads to my second question! How would straight men feel, if a gay male bluntly tells them that they AREN'T checking them out and DONT want them?

ALSO! Why would a straight male get mad at his girlfriend for conversing, dancing, hanging around a gay male?

(I hope my questions made sense! I need answers! Thanks in advance)

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by REYNALD0C

Ok, I'm not a woman, but I want a chance to pick at a straight man's mind and get some answers! Okay, so as a gay male, why do straight men act so weird and defensive around gay males when they first meet? It's weird, because I always get that vibe that they think I am checking them out and "want" them. Which leads to my second question! How would straight men feel, if a gay male bluntly tells them that they AREN'T checking them out and DONT want them? ALSO! Why would a straight male get mad at his girlfriend for conversing, dancing, hanging around a gay male? (I hope my questions made sense! I need answers! Thanks in advance)

I'm afraid I can't really help you on this one.

I'm a liberal guy from a liberal country. Homophobia has always seemed extremely odd to me. If a gay guy flirts with me, I'm just flattered.

[shopaholiccat]

Thanks for this thread :) Its great!!

1) If my bf is reluctant to tell me he likes/loves me, does that mean he doesn't like or loves me? i told him i like him or I miss him (i dont say this often I've said it like once or twice since we've been together for a year), he didn't reply with "I like u too" or "I miss you too" - what does this indicate?
I asked him before, he said he's not just the sweet talk type - does this make sense?

or I told him i wanted him to give me a card like bday card, xmas card, he said he just doesn't do cards, he's not the type that writes card - Am I suppose to worry?

What are some indications that he longer likes me? I asked him if he wants to break up after an argument that we had, but he tells me that nothing has changed and he doesn't want to break up with me?

Also, for the last two months we've been seeing each other a lot like i'm at his house 3 -4 days a week but we don't have sex that often, probably just once a week. Is he losing interest in me that's why he doesn't want to have sex with me? I asked him, he told me that when we get home, its late at night and we are tired, etc. Should I believe him or should I worry?

THANKS for your answers !!