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Cindi · Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM

Me too. Almost any animal really. Ducklings?? Yep. LOL I just want to pet them. I just don't feel that way when I see a baby. You can't help how you feel about things. That's just the way it is. I guess I have no (human) maternal instinct?

Originally Posted by Necromancer

^^ Oh, I'm useless when it comes to puppies too. I'm an equal opportunity squee-er.

leothelnss · Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM

hahaha! Those kittens have some claws, though! I did adoption shows for a little while at Petco and the kittens were climbing all over me like I was a fleshy tree. Lot's of scratch marks.

So... Is anyone here not particularly fond of animals? I'm curious.
Most people like animals, and most people like babies, so the number of people who aren't fans of either is probably pretty low.

Cindi · Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:22 PM

That's definitely true. That's why I have become an expert at clipping cat claws.

Every time I foster cats or kittens I always clip their nails once a week to get them ready to go to their new homes. I show the forever family how I do it so when they do it the cat is not scared. It works pretty well on most cats and lessens thoughts of declawing which my rescue doesn't allow.

Originally Posted by leothelnss

hahaha! Those kittens have some claws, though! I did adoption shows for a little while at Petco and the kittens were climbing all over me like I was a fleshy tree. Lot's of scratch marks.

boomie · Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cindi

Me too. Almost any animal really. Ducklings?? Yep. LOL I just want to pet them. I just don't feel that way when I see a baby. You can't help how you feel about things. That's just the way it is. I guess I have no (human) maternal instinct?

Me too...I love baby critters, from puppies to kittens, even little baby guppies! And baby bunnies? You have to pry me away.

But babies....I dunno. Not so cute to me. I am amazed at how different they are with regards to hair and the shape of their heads...but I don't ooh and ahhh over them.

jellybebe · Jun 3rd, 2009, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by schadenfreude

Seriouslychic, do your cats know when you're packing up to go somewhere? The *ahem* smarter of my two totally knows and comes out and sits on the suitcase and pouts....

Ha ha my bunny does this! Best "kid" ever!

stemidy · Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:34 AM

I recently watched a movie in which the german shepherd in it died (I have a GS btw). I cried so hard for at least 10min, barely paid attention to the movie. To be honest, someone told me the dog died before I went to see it but I did not expect this kind of reaction at all. The tears just would not stop. You had to be there to see the confused look on people's faces when they saw me and my red and bloated face exit the theatre. I would love to know what they were thinking

.

Show me a puppy ( or any kind of baby animal) and I just go "aww" and melt. Show me a baby, and nothing happens. I think they are cute and all but I don't know, it just doesn't feel natural to act that way towards babies.

Necromancer · Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:53 AM

^^ It wasn't I Am Legend was it? Because I knew the dog died but I still teared up.

baglover529 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by edithw

Hello ladies
I posted on the firts thread, only a couple of times, and I came back here because I meant to reply to baglover529's post, but then the thread got closed.
I want to let you baglover529 know that what you wrote is the way I feel.
I 80% don't wan't children, but there is that 20%, so I stopped taking the pill about 2 years ago. Yet, the thought of me becoming pregnant somehow doesn't make me happy. I know it's weird, but it makes sense to me. I don't want kids, but I feel that I have to give it a slight chance.
I feel that whichever decision I make, it won't make me fully happy. But mostly, I am too selfish and love my life the way it is.

Thank you edithw for making me feel like I am not alone in my situation. I don't want to regret not giving it a chance....but as my husband pointed out, regrets can be overcome. Especially if you don't know what you're missing. Maybe it's the fact that women are kinda expected to have that maternal instinct? And we would feel guilty if we didn't even try. I too love my life the way it is. I like children in general but only because I can leave them and go home to my own peaceful and quiet house.

That 20% of me keeps wondering though that maybe I can raise a good child, one that lives up tp my standards. And that's what's also keeping me from saying with finality that I really don't want children 100%. I don't know.... I have been feeling this for a long time already. How to solve this dilemma?!

baglover529 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by BookerMoose

^^ Our eldest dog starts to hyperventilate when we start to pack... I think that is a throwback to her former owners who travelled a lot and NEVER took her with them - most of our vacations include the hounds, however, and so you would think that she would get over that reaction after 9 years with us, but one look at a suitcase and away she goes!

And welcome everyone (again) - looking forward to giving and getting lots of SUPPORT here!

BookerMoose I love your avatar! I'd have a hard time leaving those dogs too if they looked like that! So adorable! Hubby and I have a German Shepherd ourselves.

baglover529 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 03:44 AM

stemidy, I just read your posts and how cool we both own German Shepherds! I cried in I Am Legend too... I kept thinking of poor "Sam" even after leaving the theater. Some people I talked to found it funny that I found a reason to cry watching an action/sci-fi movie.

I also agree with your comments about people when they say we don't know love until we have a child. They even say to me it's different and more profound because this is a person that came from INSIDE you. This I personally find quite horrifying, to be honest. Reminds me of the movie Alien where that creature comes out of that guy's stomach or something. Not saying kids are aliens but the whole concept of something moving around inside me freaks me out.

Love is an all-encompassing thing, a wonderful emotion that does not choose whom it is given to. It comes in many forms. And to say that love for one thing is more profound than love for another is wrong. First of all, we all love differently. I cannot say that the way I love my husband is better than the way you love your own. What more comparing love for a spouse/sibling/pet to love for a child? We know love the way we experience it and we cannot judge others by the way they give that love, or to whom.

pegasuscom · Jun 3rd, 2009, 04:11 AM

I never understand those that criticize a personal decision such as not having children. With the divorce rate at 52%, men who are more sperm donors than fathers, men who lose interest in their wives when they become mothers, mothers and fathers who kill their children because they are "in the way", child abuse statistics on the rise, and a horrific economy -- is my decision to remain childless that irresponsible? Will the world stop spinning because I choose not add one more person to drain dwindling resources? And I suppose of most importance to me, is my reproductive system any of your business in the first place? When people ask me about not having children, I always ask them how their partner is in bed. They are horrified, but it is my way of illustrating that their question is no less offensive to me (and none of anyone's business) than my question is to them.

ILoveMyBug · Jun 3rd, 2009, 04:24 AM

It's the same for me with the charity adverts on TV. Adverts for animal charities move me to tears every time, adverts for children's charities - it's not that I don't care at all, I mean I don't want to see children suffering, but one has never made me cry. 3 of the 4 charities I support are animal ones.

No Cute · Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:54 AM

So glad this thread has a new start.

Originally Posted by Cindi

Me too. Almost any animal really. Ducklings?? Yep. LOL I just want to pet them. I just don't feel that way when I see a baby. You can't help how you feel about things. That's just the way it is. I guess I have no (human) maternal instinct?

OMIGOSH, have to share. I saw ducklings running around yesterday, and they are so cute. The pic is on my phone but I can't figure out how to download.

Parent saying: ducklings are cute. Human babies are usually funny looking and all needy and smelly

(Can I say that without sounding like a bad parent?

)

Okay, won't bug you again, but the duckling comment...just had to chime in!

schadenfreude · Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by leothelnss

^ It's puppies for me... Not that I don't like kittens, they're cute too. But babies? Eh... Not so much. Another thing... The only type of animal I have no interest in are the ones in the primate family. Monkeys, apes, etc... I really don't like them very much, in fact, they kinda creep me out. If I saw one, I'd keep my distance. Same way with babies.

That is so interesting, because I feel the same way. The last time I saw an ASPCA commerical on TV I cried for half an hour and sent them $50 immediately, but something about the upper primates don't do it for me. They actually can be a bit creepy especially when they stare at you!

floridasun8 · Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM

Just wanted to say that I agree with everyone about the animal thing lol I just cannot resist animals, particularly baby animals at all! I think there is nothing cuter in this world than a puppy sleeping!!

I go as far as not only getting upset if I see an animal hurt or die in a movie, even though its not real, but I dont like to see animals in movies really at all! I tell my dh all the time that you cant reason with an animal like a person and an animal does not understand that it is fake, they can only respond to what they believe are real actions. Its gotten to the point that I will not watch a movie that is about animals as the main focus, and I will stop watching any other movie if I feel they are using an animal in it that is not in a loving, normal pet like part.

I also understand the whole charity thing. I also dont like to see children suffer or hurt and I believe that anyone that hurts children or puts them in danger should be hung, but when it comes to charity, I feel that the default most often always seems to be childrens charities and when it comes to adult charities or charities for animals they are second-rate. I mean, everytime I hear a radio telethon, something on tv,things in the community, 9 times out of 10 they are for a kid charity. What about the animals or others that need help too? Therefore, I will PERSONALLY ONLY support charities for animals or those that also cater to adults with disabilities, elderly, etc because I feel those are so neglected.

Jun 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM	#32
leothelnss sun in moderation Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 5,985	hahaha! Those kittens have some claws, though! I did adoption shows for a little while at Petco and the kittens were climbing all over me like I was a fleshy tree. Lot's of scratch marks. So... Is anyone here not particularly fond of animals? I'm curious. Most people like animals, and most people like babies, so the number of people who aren't fans of either is probably pretty low.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 03:44 AM	#40
baglover529 Member Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 127	stemidy, I just read your posts and how cool we both own German Shepherds! I cried in I Am Legend too... I kept thinking of poor "Sam" even after leaving the theater. Some people I talked to found it funny that I found a reason to cry watching an action/sci-fi movie. I also agree with your comments about people when they say we don't know love until we have a child. They even say to me it's different and more profound because this is a person that came from INSIDE you. This I personally find quite horrifying, to be honest. Reminds me of the movie Alien where that creature comes out of that guy's stomach or something. Not saying kids are aliens but the whole concept of something moving around inside me freaks me out. Love is an all-encompassing thing, a wonderful emotion that does not choose whom it is given to. It comes in many forms. And to say that love for one thing is more profound than love for another is wrong. First of all, we all love differently. I cannot say that the way I love my husband is better than the way you love your own. What more comparing love for a spouse/sibling/pet to love for a child? We know love the way we experience it and we cannot judge others by the way they give that love, or to whom.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 04:24 AM	#42
ILoveMyBug Victoria Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,504	It's the same for me with the charity adverts on TV. Adverts for animal charities move me to tears every time, adverts for children's charities - it's not that I don't care at all, I mean I don't want to see children suffering, but one has never made me cry. 3 of the 4 charities I support are animal ones.
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Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:34 AM	#36
stemidy Member Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 8	I recently watched a movie in which the german shepherd in it died (I have a GS btw). I cried so hard for at least 10min, barely paid attention to the movie. To be honest, someone told me the dog died before I went to see it but I did not expect this kind of reaction at all. The tears just would not stop. You had to be there to see the confused look on people's faces when they saw me and my red and bloated face exit the theatre. I would love to know what they were thinking . Show me a puppy ( or any kind of baby animal) and I just go "aww" and melt. Show me a baby, and nothing happens. I think they are cute and all but I don't know, it just doesn't feel natural to act that way towards babies.

Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:53 AM	#37
Necromancer Member Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 3,439	^^ It wasn't I Am Legend was it? Because I knew the dog died but I still teared up.

Jun 3rd, 2009, 04:11 AM	#41
pegasuscom Member Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Horse Country Posts: 1,593	I never understand those that criticize a personal decision such as not having children. With the divorce rate at 52%, men who are more sperm donors than fathers, men who lose interest in their wives when they become mothers, mothers and fathers who kill their children because they are "in the way", child abuse statistics on the rise, and a horrific economy -- is my decision to remain childless that irresponsible? Will the world stop spinning because I choose not add one more person to drain dwindling resources? And I suppose of most importance to me, is my reproductive system any of your business in the first place? When people ask me about not having children, I always ask them how their partner is in bed. They are horrified, but it is my way of illustrating that their question is no less offensive to me (and none of anyone's business) than my question is to them.

Jun 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM	#45
floridasun8 Member Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Under a Palm Tree Posts: 1,878	Just wanted to say that I agree with everyone about the animal thing lol I just cannot resist animals, particularly baby animals at all! I think there is nothing cuter in this world than a puppy sleeping!! I go as far as not only getting upset if I see an animal hurt or die in a movie, even though its not real, but I dont like to see animals in movies really at all! I tell my dh all the time that you cant reason with an animal like a person and an animal does not understand that it is fake, they can only respond to what they believe are real actions. Its gotten to the point that I will not watch a movie that is about animals as the main focus, and I will stop watching any other movie if I feel they are using an animal in it that is not in a loving, normal pet like part. I also understand the whole charity thing. I also dont like to see children suffer or hurt and I believe that anyone that hurts children or puts them in danger should be hung, but when it comes to charity, I feel that the default most often always seems to be childrens charities and when it comes to adult charities or charities for animals they are second-rate. I mean, everytime I hear a radio telethon, something on tv,things in the community, 9 times out of 10 they are for a kid charity. What about the animals or others that need help too? Therefore, I will PERSONALLY ONLY support charities for animals or those that also cater to adults with disabilities, elderly, etc because I feel those are so neglected.

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