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Old Oct 5th, 2008, 08:27 PM   #31
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Jeez, sometimes men really ....STINK...
Big Hugs to you...and I hope you find yourself getting stronger and stronger every day to the point where you WANT to be single and enjoy this time with yourself....
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Old Oct 5th, 2008, 08:30 PM   #32
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I say wait it out and just see what happens. Sometimes guys get flustered and scared.
I would'n't have moved out though. I would have made him pack up and go.
Just lean on your friends right now and do things for yourself. You've been in a relationship for 5 years. It's time to be a little selfish and think about you for a change.
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Old Oct 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM   #33
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What a terrible shock this must have been. I am soo sorry. This immediately reminded me of this friend who was getting married the NEXT day. She was at her bridesmaid's luncheon and when she got back to her car he had left a note that said basically the same thing and she never saw him again. Not sure which is worse...to have to see him often like you, or never again like K. The shock value is the same, though. The feeling of loss is the same.

Oh, she is happily married to someone else now, so we pray for you to learn to trust again and to get over this as soon as is possible.
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Old Oct 5th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #34
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Oh, that is so terrible to hear! Your story sounds a lot like another member's, who also posted recently about her long-term boyfriend suddenly breaking things off. It's all so heartbreaking, but I hope that you will start to feel better and remember the good times of your relationship.
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #35
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Read your thread a couple of days ago and wanted to say I'm so sorry you are going through this, Marie. I remember you from the Bal forum and you are such a sweetie! Hope you are hanging in there and keeping your chin up dear!

Coincidentally I just read this article from the Yahoo.com homepage and though it might explain some things about men's behaviour.

"Dating 101: Why Guys Dump Girls They Dig"

http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/si...1kaWcEenoDYWJj

Nothing is more upsetting than when a dude you know is into you pulls the plug. One man gets to the bottom of out-of-the-blue breakups.

By Cosmopolitan

"What just happened?" The guy dug you, you dug him, and the whole thing felt destined for a fabulous future -- at least the foreseeable one. Then, out of nowhere, he bailed on the relationship. So what went wrong? The sad dating truth is, maybe nothing. Here are five completely ridiculous reasons guys kick you to the curb. Warning: For the most part, it ain't pretty.Single women get serious when they meet the right man. Single men get serious with whomever we happen to be dating when we're finally ready to settle down. That means after every other aspect of our life is in order -- whether it's finishing grad school, finally pulling down a good-size paycheck, owning a car outright -- or when our friends start dropping like flies (that's guyspeak for getting married).

But if you catch a guy before he hits that magical stage of his life, then he's liable to bolt -- like Patrick, 28, who dumped Bridgett after two years, then got engaged to the next girl he dated after only 10 months. "When I was with Bridgett, all of my friends were single and I was still an intern with nothing going on in my career. So every time she'd bring up our future together, it felt like she was jumping the gun," he says. "I didn't break up with her because she was wrong for me. I ended it because I didn't want to commit to anyone right then. But by the time I met Elizabeth, I was in a settling-down frame of mind."

1. We're Not Finished Playing the Field

Single men are natural-born one-uppers. If there's a possibility of upgrading what we already have for something better (that'll make our friends drool), we say, bring it on! So we wind up always wondering if you're really as good as it gets. (I know, scumbag mentality.) "Whenever I meet a new attractive woman, I consider what it would be like to date her, even if I have a girlfriend at the time," says Andy, 30. "The grass is always greener. No matter how great his current girl is, a guy doesn't want to feel like he's missing out."
In addition to our opportunistic tendencies, most guys feel compelled to put as many relationship conquests under their belts as possible. "I admit it -- I know the exact number of girls I've dated, no mental calculation required," says Dan, 29. "That's how aware I am of how many notches I have. And I'd never commit until I felt like I'd experienced enough different women." Every guy's definition of enough is different, so there's a chance he wrote you off just because you didn't come late enough on his own personal hit list. The moral of the story: Until we grow up, mark everything off our checklists or have too many friends convince us that we can't do better than you, the flight risk is real.

2. We're Fixated on the Worst-Case Scenario

From the times you chastise us for leaving a wet towel on the bed to those nights you rip through a pint of fudge ripple without stopping to breathe, we file each incident in a mental folder labeled "Evidence She'll Change for the Worse." We flip through that file whenever we're trying to decide if we want to hang on to the relationship. Blame our married friends who took the plunge before us, but many single men are hyperaware of what could go wrong down the road. Even if we're crazy about you now, we panic that you'll pack on the pounds and nag us day and night. So we secretly flag certain things that might be a harbinger of bad things to come. "I've seen it happen to too many of my friends," says Elliot, 29. "All they do is complain about how the romance takes a total nosedive after they get serious with a girl. So sometimes, even if the woman I'm dating is gorgeous, I freak out and bail."

3. We're in Like, Not in Love

It's harsh but true. In fact, it's probably the most common reason we bolt. Just because a guy likes you a lot isn't a guarantee that it will evolve into love. And we're surprisingly intuitive when it comes to figuring out a girl's potential on this front. "I stayed with one woman for two years because we had fun together and she never pushed the issue, but I knew the minute I met her that she wasn't The One," says David, 30.
So why do we invest any time in a relationship that we know will ultimately end? Because we're able to live in the moment for a while and chalk it up to a good experience. But once you show that you're way more into us than we are into you, we'll dump you out of guilt. "I dated this girl for about a year, but as soon as she started using the L word, I had to end it," recalls Jay, 29. "It was hard. I cared about her and didn't want to hurt her. But I knew that if I stuck around, she'd have been happier at first but miserable later on. After all, she deserved to be with someone who loved her as much as she loved me."

4. We're Too into You

Just when you thought it was all bad news, here's a hard-to-fess-up admission: Guys are protective of their emotions. Translation: We're scared of being hurt. So, if we start to feel like we're getting into a situation where we'll be destroyed if you dump us, we might launch a preemptive strike and yank the plug first. For Gary, 27, showing his girlfriend of two years the exit felt like the only choice. "She was the first girl I was serious with, and I didn't like letting someone have that much power over me. I was starting to feel emotionally needy, and that was uncomfortable for me," he recalls. "So I ditched her to save myself!"
Sounds crazy, but cut us some slack. Think about how vulnerable and paranoid you feel when you're nuts about a guy, and realize that we go through the same thing with girls we really like. But our friends aren't as good at helping us get over an ex as yours are, plus being openly heartbroken makes us look like wusses. Nope, it's better to act like a winner before you turn us into a loser, which is when our natural self-preservation may come into play. Before the real humiliation and pain assail us like a plague, ending the relationship seems like a good option.

5. Are You About to Be Jilted?
  • His cell phone is always off. He might be spending time with someone he doesn't want you to know about... or he just doesn't want to make himself available.
  • He's reluctant to make plans. If he hems and haws about committing to anything -- even if it's in the semi-near future -- he's thinking about making a break for it.
  • He's meaner. The passive-aggressive breakup is a guy standby. Some men intentionally turn into whiners to make sure you break up with them.
  • He's distant. He doesn't want to feel connected to you -- or he's getting his needs filled somewhere else.
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 03:26 AM   #36
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Marie, I am so sorry that you are going through this... Nothing I write is going to make you feel better except that I have gone through a broken engagement myself and can empathize all the whirlwind of emotions you must be feeling right now... But I promise that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Just take it one day at a time, or sometimes one hour at a time. And don't be afraid to ask for help...emotionally and medically. And don't be afraid to be selfish. You need to be taken care of right now. HUGS to you...
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 10:44 AM   #37
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wow spiralsnowman I was actually going to post that SAME article here. i think it is a decent explanation, especially considering it comes from a guy.

I am soo sorry this is happening to you Marie
My longterm bf broke up with me a few weeks ago completely out of the blue and the only thing that I really consider a good thing is that we werent further committed to eachother and engaged or married. I wish I could give you a hug right now, I know how painful this is and hopefully someday you will look back on this as a good thing....either because it gave you two the time you needed to be apart or because you have found someone SOO much better..as impossible as that may seem. Hang in there sweetie and please keep coming here to post. It helps to write things down
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #38
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Marie, I'm so sorry this is happening to you. First, I think it's such a good sign that you only took one day off work, and you're trying to just live your life. Second, the fact that you know you'll never take him back is really healthy. I think it's better to have that attitude than to hope and pray that he'll see the light, when really his actions are out of your hands.

Third, I'm wondering if there's even a tiny bit of you that thinks this was the right decision and you weren't meant to be, even though it hurts and is the most terrible thing you've ever had to go through? The reason I ask is that it does seem like you have a really good perspective on everything, despite the hurt. Take it form someone who's been there- my now ex-husband said to me 2 days before our wedding that he didn't want to do it, and I just thought it was cold feet. The wedding obviously happened, and he was shaking through the whole thing. What do you know, a year after we were married, he tells me he never wanted to be married in the first place, that he just wasn't ready. If I knew what I know now, I would go back to that moment and call it off.

Be glad you have your heart back, heal it, and save it for the right one- you'll have your happily ever after, you will:)
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #39
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I am soo sorry to hear that this happened to you. I can only imagine how hard this time is for you just remember that things can only get better & focus on your great job & just moving on with your future. Go away for a weekend & just have some fun, good luck
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #40
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Just want to join in and say I'm sorry for what happened. I also think you have a healthy attitude in not wanting him back even if he wanted to. Too many women are too ready for their men to come back; but that means everything about you is within his control and whim, but with your attitude it's obviously about caring about yourself and what you want out of life, and why should you not be the decision maker in your life?

Anyway, I'm another woman belonging to the broken engagement club. With the same "where the eff did that come from and how could you have hid that for so long" shock. Some people are just great actors. I always say "better to find out before rather than after the wedding". I can't guarantee for anyone else, but for me, it really was a blessing in disguise, and although I can't guarantee your future, it's probably safe to say you'll be saying the same thing in the future when things work out for the best, as it almost always does.
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #41
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I think he might by lying about seeing someone else.

Personally, I think he owes you a better explanation. Most of the time, I just say to let it go, but I think in this case, I would press him for a better explanation. But that's just me.

A great big, huge hug to you, whatever you do. I think it must be so hard to be living somewhere else than you want to be and be in this situation.
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Old Oct 6th, 2008, 07:26 PM   #42
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Im so sorry to hear this Marie but as others have said better now than after the marriage. and i have to say I think you are a very beautiful woman and you will have no problems finding MR Right. Maybe he was just the practice round for you to prepare for that perfect someone. Thats how it was for me I had 5 yrs (not married)and 2 kids invested and my ex just walked out and a year later I met my husband and we have been married for 15 years and have a 12 year old son together.
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Old Oct 8th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #43
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I'm so sorry, dear Marie. You are successful and gorgeous, not to mention fabulous, you'll find the right person and the ultimate happiness very soon. I just know it. Before then, please be strong. Hang in there. My thoughts will be with you always.

p.s. We miss you in the bal forum. Please visit soon.
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Old Oct 8th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #44
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I think he's acting like a bit of a coward...he broke your heart, but won't take the blame..wanted to continue living together as room mates for another year? What sort of bulls$$t is that? I thought he wanted to be alone? Doesn't understand that he makes things harder for you by showing love and attention as if nothing's happened??

I think it's much more to it than what he has explained to you..(but then again I'm a suspicious cow..)..after 5 years together and a wedding in the planning, I think he owed it to you to be straight and honest..not another girlfriend for 10 years, jeez, I hope this guy gets his wish..

Wish you all the best of luck with getting your life back on track, Marie, think you might surprise yourself, sounds like you're letting go already, wise girl!

And I understand that feeling of being European and a bit out of place in Australia, I'm the same...
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Old Oct 9th, 2008, 11:47 AM   #45
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Well, that it something very, very awful to have happen to you, I'm so sorry that it did. Honestly you're handling it very well. And I applaud you for not wanting him back. You're right, this could come up again and again and you certianly don't need that rollercoaster ride in your life.
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