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Mchelly601 · Jul 16th, 2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by missmollypolly

I don't think 4'9 and 103 pounds is chubby. In fact, a 4'9 103 pound person has a lower BMI than a 5'5 135 pound person...

Well first of all it doesn't matter what you OP look like. I'll say that again she was trying to be rude.

I'm not considering health, I'm not a nutritionist are you, just curious? I'm speaking looks wise which is what this is about. A person shaped like a stuffed squat square box with no waist at 103lbs looks chubby to me. Usually people that short that I've met weigh 80-85 (yes they just say it).
I never said I wasn't chubby myself cause I am too. And no I would never say that to her. Her weight is her business and so is mine! I was just using her and I as a REAL example to throw out there for people that focus on number only which is still going to happen regardless.

Queen Saffy · Jul 17th, 2009, 01:22 PM

I used to be really really skinny until I gained the freshman 15. When I went home, just about everyone I knew told me about how fat I was (5'1, 105lbs), how my face looked like a piece of soaked bread (fa sui meen bao, for those who understand cantonese) yadda yadda. It made me really depressed and perhaps contributed to my eating disorder shortly after. It took me a year of intensive running to whittle my weight back down to 90lbs but my metabolism was so screwed that I didn't have my period for 2 years, my hands were tremoring all the time and people just gawked at me prob coz I was so skeletal.
I've since recovered and am back to a healthy weight, but no one ever dares call me fat again. Perhaps they're worried that I may just vomit in their face or something.

So Aunties are rude to make up for their own insecurities, maybe they have been belittled and put down or called fat when they were younger. I think we should put an end to this silly "culture" eh? Respect.

luckygirl83 · Jul 17th, 2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by ami kio

I had the same experience the first time that I shopped in Asia, and that's when I was a bit lighter than I am now. I've found that it varies a bit between Asian countries. At 5", 100lbs, I'm an XXS or 00P in the US; however, I am a M/L in Singapore but a S/M in Hong Kong. I forget what I am in Japan. But all pants are still too long no matter what country I'm in!

Despite going from "tiny" to "large", I'm still short!

That happened to me too! Just before college, I went to HK. At 5'8" and 108 lbs, I was teeny tiny for my height. For prom, I went for a size 0 in my dress and usually wore size S's. When I went back to HK, mind you, I hadn't returned to HK for 5 or 6 years, I was suddenly handed M's and L's!!!! What a shock! Being 17 yrs old, I almost cried and then realized that I was 7" taller than most of the girls there. Now that I am at a healthier weight (114lbs), I still get comments from family who says I look chubby. Even my father will occasionally mention it! You really just have to take their comments without seriousness. I nod and say "to be able to eat is a blessing". :)

ami kio · Jul 17th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by luckygirl83

That happened to me too! Just before college, I went to HK. At 5'8" and 108 lbs, I was teeny tiny for my height. For prom, I went for a size 0 in my dress and usually wore size S's. When I went back to HK, mind you, I hadn't returned to HK for 5 or 6 years, I was suddenly handed M's and L's!!!! What a shock! Being 17 yrs old, I almost cried and then realized that I was 7" taller than most of the girls there.

At least you got to tell yourself that you were taller!

I had nothing!

Being shook up about having to wear M/L made me realize how much of my self-perception had to do with the idea of being small/thin.

A somewhat unpleasant eye-opener, but a good one.

missmollypolly · Jul 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mchelly601

Well first of all it doesn't matter what you OP look like. I'll say that again she was trying to be rude.

I'm not considering health, I'm not a nutritionist are you, just curious? I'm speaking looks wise which is what this is about. A person shaped like a stuffed squat square box with no waist at 103lbs looks chubby to me. Usually people that short that I've met weigh 80-85 (yes they just say it).
I never said I wasn't chubby myself cause I am too. And no I would never say that to her. Her weight is her business and so is mine! I was just using her and I as a REAL example to throw out there for people that focus on number only which is still going to happen regardless.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I was just trying to point out that what you are saying is a bit extreme. A person at 4'9 and 103 pounds isn't overweight. It might not fit your aesthetic, but that person isn't a heavy person. Even at 4'9, a person weighing 80 pounds is underweight per the BMI.

I'm only an inch taller than you and I weigh the same (5'6" 130/135)...I guess I'm just troubled by the fact that you think people who are well within the healthy weight range are "chubby." Of course you're entitled to your opinion, I just find it a bit peculiar.

simplygm819 · Jul 19th, 2009, 12:47 AM

Wow, my jaw dropped when I was reading some of the replies posted here. I guess at 5'1 and 102lbs with size 6.5 feet I would be considered a whale in some asia countries, too!! Here in NYC (chinatown wise) I would say that you see asian girls with all body types, and for the most part, your weight is that way either by choice or you were born that way. I notice that the more traditional girls or for lack of a better term..FOBS (for the non asians, that's a term that we use to describe someone who wasn't born here or even if they were, have adopted the ideas/fashions, etc of hk, china, etc) are usually super skinny, think stick figure with no curves whatsoever, and it doesn't help when the style they embrace (loose fitting and/or sloppy looking) makes them look that much skinnier cause it's practically hanging off of them. Then, you have the abc (american born chinese) girls who are more in touch with their curvier side. I can say that all the girls in my family are considered "petite" like me. Then you have my 16yo cousin who is my height but 120lbs, but to me she certainly isn't "fat" per se..just bigger boned compared to us. It's hard to explain it but I think weight and the perception of whether one is "chubby" or "fat" is in the eyes of the beholder. I feel that as long as we're within a "healthy" range, neither too fat nor too skinny, and comfortable with ourselves, then we're fine. Naturally, anyone looking at a person who "looks bigger" automatically assumes that person is heavier or "fatter" and vice versa.

Also, for the girls who have visited asia, is it still like that? (i.e girls staring you down when you walk into a boutique and sizing you up and thinking we're "big" in their opinions) Oftentimes I watch tvb (hk dramas) and I notice that alot of the actresses are actually adopting to a more americanized look (style wise, looking curvier and not stick skinny like back then). Even in regards to the music world, the girls no longer all look like the typical super short and tiny, stick figure type. They've been infiltrated (in a great way) by newcomers like Linda Chung, Bernice Liu, just to name a few. These girls are like 5'9 and definitely not stick figures. Granted the two I named are actually Canadian Vancouverites and are very "americanized" but they sure are warmly welcomed by the hk people and could be described as lang luis or beautiful by many...and I think whoever calls them "fat" is just simply close minded or jealous.

Bottom line is, weight is important but it shouldn't be obsessed over. There are more important things in life. But honestly, and I know I might have strayed off topic just a bit earlier, the mom was QUITE RUDE to just come out and say you're fat. You would think that as a senior, she would have more common sense or just common courtesy to know not to say things like that to young people. It makes her look bad in general. So yes, I think they were both just envious of you! Whatever the case is, don't let them get to you!

GhstDreamer · Jul 19th, 2009, 09:27 AM

^One of my sister's friends went to Hong Kong last summer and a few of the SAs in the boutiques told her not to bother walking into their store because she's too big to wear anything in there. The only "curvier" HK actresses are the imports from the US or Canada. I haven't noticed any of the actresses looking healthier. Myolie, Charmaine, etc. are all still super skinny - I remember a time when they started in the industry and they weren't that thin. I find it hilarious whenever they play a detective/firefighter/police officer role - I don't know if I want someone who's 80lbs to come try to rescue me...they look like they could barely run!!!

frenchtoast · Jul 19th, 2009, 09:48 PM

105 pounds?????? You are NOT fat by any means. That was extremely rude to say.

It had to have been jealousy.

swags · Jul 19th, 2009, 09:57 PM

I've witnessed this behavior from former coworkers (yes Asian) who's mom's were very blunt about weight. I was blown away by this talk. It seems so hurtful and such nonsense for girls who are wearing teeny sizes. Plus I don't understand why one person feels the need to chime in about another persons weight. Its horribly rude! Now, don't get me wrong, I've seen this behavior in many cultures, its just that when its done to people wearing size 4 it seems exceptionally unnecessary. But in fact it can be hurtful no matter what size the person on the receiving end is.

ChanelMommy · Jul 19th, 2009, 09:58 PM

They are just jealous. 105lbs is not fat!!

lilobubbletea · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM

Don't worry, there is nothing wrong with you!

I'm the tiniest of all the girl's who have gone through puberty in my family and one of my aunts with two larger daughters called me fat too! I was kind of offended and it bothered me for a while but I got over it.

Also, in some cultures, having more weight on the body is more attractive so maybe she meant is as a compliment.

Mchelly601 · Jul 20th, 2009, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by missmollypolly

I'm sorry if I offended you, I was just trying to point out that what you are saying is a bit extreme. A person at 4'9 and 103 pounds isn't overweight. It might not fit your aesthetic, but that person isn't a heavy person. Even at 4'9, a person weighing 80 pounds is underweight per the BMI.

I'm only an inch taller than you and I weigh the same (5'6" 130/135)...I guess I'm just troubled by the fact that you think people who are well within the healthy weight range are "chubby." Of course you're entitled to your opinion, I just find it a bit peculiar.

Last time I reply cause I don't wanna hijack the thread:

I'm not offended just annoyed that people can classify everyone with the same number as one thing. I'm the one that has seen her so I don't understand the opposition. She's not fat at all but yes I think she is chubby and so does my 4'11 BFF don't shoot us. I'm not even 130 anymore and she is just as wide as myself. When I was 130 I looked more like 115. I won't get into it too much, but curvier people gain weight better without turning into a square, like small boned boy shape frames tend to do. My whole point was that not everyone looks the same at 103 or 130. I can't stand generalizations that is all. My whole point is everyone is different and I find it peculiar not to get that.

simplygm819 · Jul 22nd, 2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by GhstDreamer

^One of my sister's friends went to Hong Kong last summer and a few of the SAs in the boutiques told her not to bother walking into their store because she's too big to wear anything in there. The only "curvier" HK actresses are the imports from the US or Canada. I haven't noticed any of the actresses looking healthier. Myolie, Charmaine, etc. are all still super skinny - I remember a time when they started in the industry and they weren't that thin. I find it hilarious whenever they play a detective/firefighter/police officer role - I don't know if I want someone who's 80lbs to come try to rescue me...they look like they could barely run!!!

Haha

that is quite true..it would be us having to reverse the roles and rescue them! I'm not sure what it is with girls looking stick skinny again. My dbf was watching a new episode of Entourage the other night and I saw some of the girls (mostly caucasians) and it's unbelievable how stick-ish their arms looked. It was kind of disgusting..they were like little girls' arms, basically just skin wrapped on bones. I would think guys prefer healthy looking softly toned bodies as opposed to skinny beanstalks. Wouldn't it be like hugging a little boy?!

Jul 17th, 2009, 01:22 PM	#122
Queen Saffy Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 19	I used to be really really skinny until I gained the freshman 15. When I went home, just about everyone I knew told me about how fat I was (5'1, 105lbs), how my face looked like a piece of soaked bread (fa sui meen bao, for those who understand cantonese) yadda yadda. It made me really depressed and perhaps contributed to my eating disorder shortly after. It took me a year of intensive running to whittle my weight back down to 90lbs but my metabolism was so screwed that I didn't have my period for 2 years, my hands were tremoring all the time and people just gawked at me prob coz I was so skeletal. I've since recovered and am back to a healthy weight, but no one ever dares call me fat again. Perhaps they're worried that I may just vomit in their face or something. So Aunties are rude to make up for their own insecurities, maybe they have been belittled and put down or called fat when they were younger. I think we should put an end to this silly "culture" eh? Respect.
Queen Saffy Member Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 19

Jul 19th, 2009, 12:47 AM	#126
simplygm819 Member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 226	Wow, my jaw dropped when I was reading some of the replies posted here. I guess at 5'1 and 102lbs with size 6.5 feet I would be considered a whale in some asia countries, too!! Here in NYC (chinatown wise) I would say that you see asian girls with all body types, and for the most part, your weight is that way either by choice or you were born that way. I notice that the more traditional girls or for lack of a better term..FOBS (for the non asians, that's a term that we use to describe someone who wasn't born here or even if they were, have adopted the ideas/fashions, etc of hk, china, etc) are usually super skinny, think stick figure with no curves whatsoever, and it doesn't help when the style they embrace (loose fitting and/or sloppy looking) makes them look that much skinnier cause it's practically hanging off of them. Then, you have the abc (american born chinese) girls who are more in touch with their curvier side. I can say that all the girls in my family are considered "petite" like me. Then you have my 16yo cousin who is my height but 120lbs, but to me she certainly isn't "fat" per se..just bigger boned compared to us. It's hard to explain it but I think weight and the perception of whether one is "chubby" or "fat" is in the eyes of the beholder. I feel that as long as we're within a "healthy" range, neither too fat nor too skinny, and comfortable with ourselves, then we're fine. Naturally, anyone looking at a person who "looks bigger" automatically assumes that person is heavier or "fatter" and vice versa. Also, for the girls who have visited asia, is it still like that? (i.e girls staring you down when you walk into a boutique and sizing you up and thinking we're "big" in their opinions) Oftentimes I watch tvb (hk dramas) and I notice that alot of the actresses are actually adopting to a more americanized look (style wise, looking curvier and not stick skinny like back then). Even in regards to the music world, the girls no longer all look like the typical super short and tiny, stick figure type. They've been infiltrated (in a great way) by newcomers like Linda Chung, Bernice Liu, just to name a few. These girls are like 5'9 and definitely not stick figures. Granted the two I named are actually Canadian Vancouverites and are very "americanized" but they sure are warmly welcomed by the hk people and could be described as lang luis or beautiful by many...and I think whoever calls them "fat" is just simply close minded or jealous. Bottom line is, weight is important but it shouldn't be obsessed over. There are more important things in life. But honestly, and I know I might have strayed off topic just a bit earlier, the mom was QUITE RUDE to just come out and say you're fat. You would think that as a senior, she would have more common sense or just common courtesy to know not to say things like that to young people. It makes her look bad in general. So yes, I think they were both just envious of you! Whatever the case is, don't let them get to you!
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Jul 19th, 2009, 09:27 AM	#127
GhstDreamer Lady Philosophy Joined: May 2008 Location: Where gavagai roam Posts: 2,405	^One of my sister's friends went to Hong Kong last summer and a few of the SAs in the boutiques told her not to bother walking into their store because she's too big to wear anything in there. The only "curvier" HK actresses are the imports from the US or Canada. I haven't noticed any of the actresses looking healthier. Myolie, Charmaine, etc. are all still super skinny - I remember a time when they started in the industry and they weren't that thin. I find it hilarious whenever they play a detective/firefighter/police officer role - I don't know if I want someone who's 80lbs to come try to rescue me...they look like they could barely run!!!
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Jul 19th, 2009, 09:57 PM	#129
swags Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 881	I've witnessed this behavior from former coworkers (yes Asian) who's mom's were very blunt about weight. I was blown away by this talk. It seems so hurtful and such nonsense for girls who are wearing teeny sizes. Plus I don't understand why one person feels the need to chime in about another persons weight. Its horribly rude! Now, don't get me wrong, I've seen this behavior in many cultures, its just that when its done to people wearing size 4 it seems exceptionally unnecessary. But in fact it can be hurtful no matter what size the person on the receiving end is.
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Jul 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#131
lilobubbletea Member Joined: May 2008 Location: Portland & Seattle Posts: 677	Don't worry, there is nothing wrong with you! I'm the tiniest of all the girl's who have gone through puberty in my family and one of my aunts with two larger daughters called me fat too! I was kind of offended and it bothered me for a while but I got over it. Also, in some cultures, having more weight on the body is more attractive so maybe she meant is as a compliment.
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Jul 19th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#128
frenchtoast Member Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 432	105 pounds?????? You are NOT fat by any means. That was extremely rude to say. It had to have been jealousy.

Jul 19th, 2009, 09:58 PM	#130
ChanelMommy <3 Joined: Jul 2007 Location: The Playground Posts: 754	They are just jealous. 105lbs is not fat!!

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