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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 03:35 AM   #31
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Trust me on this one. I've been in the workforce fulltime since these young women were in diapers, LOL.
now its the other way around, the guys they are flirting with are in diapers.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 04:35 AM   #32
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^^ LMAO, Shoo!!
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 05:20 AM   #33
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Disgusting. But it has ALWAYS been this way.....women use their charm and men succumb. Men are judged by their skills, women by their looks and it´s not gonna change soon...
Yeah it is totally like a little girl in "love" with her teacher ! The men love it and soon will say to their wives "I could have a much younger wife, you´re too old for me !". Especially bc a lot of these men are just in their "mid life crisis" and it´s easy for women to see their weak spot.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #34
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now its the other way around, the guys they are flirting with are in diapers.

Love it!!
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 08:20 AM   #35
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #36
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Trust me on this one. I've been in the workforce fulltime since these young women were in diapers, LOL.
Same here! Girls who come on too strong with the sex card have a hard time getting anywhere on the career track. Their bosses see them as potential playmates, not potential executives. As my attorney husband said of one woman interning at his office, "Her behavior says she wants to marry a lawyer, not be one."
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 09:04 AM   #37
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it's called having no class. but what goes around comes around. someday they will be older and (maybe) married and some young chick will put the moves on their guy. karma is a beeyotch!

and OP I agree with you its very inappropiate
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 09:11 AM   #38
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Well, this sort of behaviour has always been around and always will...have none of you been chatted up by guys (married or not) in the work place?? Never?? 'Cause you have...it's up to a married or otherwise attached person to give clear signals that they're not interested and dislike being flirted with..

In my opinion, the guys show even less class than the girls..they're married, but love the attention from young, silly girls...if I found my husband all over a young employee, it would be him that would cop it, not the girl...
Totaly! An attractive man/woman will always have someone coming onto them, but its up to them how far they allow it all to go.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #39
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Why are the women the ones to be blamed tho? Why are these men accepting this type of flirtation in the work place? I would personally expect my husband to put his foot down as a man, as someone older and as someone with more power then the young employee in the work place..i wouldnt care if they were just a bit too nice to him... but if they were hugging him and touching him..and all that, i would expect him to have a chat to them and tell them to knock it off.
ITA. It burns me when people say it just happened. The men should say something but they just encourage this behavior thus giving the appearance that something could happen if the right moment presented itself. I wonder if they tell their wives about this. It is like they want something to possibly happen. People do not think about the consequences of their actions and the vows they took.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #40
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I feel like the women always get most of the blame, but really both parties are at fault here. If the men didn't indulge or encourage the behavior, then it would stop.

On a related note, has anyone noticed that when two people have an affair (one married and the other not), the unmarried party always gets the most blame? It's as if without their sneaky behavior the married person would have never strayed. To me the married person is the one that took the vows and should shoulder most of the blame. Also, people that cheat on their SO are probably not lured away by some crafty person, but looking for an affair.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #41
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I feel like the women always get most of the blame, but really both parties are at fault here. If the men didn't indulge or encourage the behavior, then it would stop.

On a related note, has anyone noticed that when two people have an affair (one married and the other not), the unmarried party always gets the most blame? It's as if without their sneaky behavior the married person would have never strayed. To me the married person is the one that took the vows and should shoulder most of the blame. Also, people that cheat on their SO are probably not lured away by some crafty person, but looking for an affair.
Yeah isnt that ironic? its as if the married person didnt have their own judgement, ability to think and make choices?

I remember a thread here when a PFer in marriage, with kids found out her husband got another woman pregnant. She turned all her hatred towards her, as if her husband was literally forced to have an affair. Now maybe I can understand this attitude from the betrayed person when the pain is too big to bear, but why does everyone else seem to think so too? Hello, the married party wasnt knocked unconscious, nor was the contact of the genitals of aforementioned cheaters accidental !
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 05:16 PM   #42
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I feel like the women always get most of the blame, but really both parties are at fault here. If the men didn't indulge or encourage the behavior, then it would stop.

On a related note, has anyone noticed that when two people have an affair (one married and the other not), the unmarried party always gets the most blame? It's as if without their sneaky behavior the married person would have never strayed. To me the married person is the one that took the vows and should shoulder most of the blame. Also, people that cheat on their SO are probably not lured away by some crafty person, but looking for an affair.

I agree. And I know I've admitted on here before that I used to date a married guy and it probably makes me look like a ho (this was ten years ago) but I in NO WAY sought him out. I didn't even give him my number or anything. He pursued me to the fullest and told me his marriage was pretty much over and I was the one he wished he was with, blah, blah, blah. But guess who came out looking like an "evil woman" who goes after married men? Yeah, me.
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I agree. And I know I've admitted on here before that I used to date a married guy and it probably makes me look like a ho (this was ten years ago) but I in NO WAY sought him out. I didn't even give him my number or anything. He pursued me to the fullest and told me his marriage was pretty much over and I was the one he wished he was with, blah, blah, blah. But guess who came out looking like an "evil woman" who goes after married men? Yeah, me.
That's sort of what happened with my ex, who totally told a woman he was after that he was unhappily married to this horrible woman (me) and how I wouldn't have sex with him (I guess the kids were immaculately conceived) and was just a b**** from h*** and wouldn't divorce him. That's because he never requested one!

I found this all out a year or so later when I divorced him (lots of reasons, including infidelity) and he fought that divorce like crazy. Seriously, he dragged it out every possible. Anyway, this woman called me one night and went off on me, screaming and sobbing about how horrible I was fighting the divorce, and I had to tell her I was the one trying to get the divorce and she was welcome to him. The man totally lied to her. She found out how much when she married him--and divorced him herself five years later when he cheated on her.

Sometimes women think they are rescuing a man. I guess it's easier for them to believe how awful the wife must be than question the intentions of a Mr. Wonderful who, of course, finds Ms. Unattached irresistible.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #44
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That's sort of what happened with my ex, who totally told a woman he was after that he was unhappily married to this horrible woman (me) and how I wouldn't have sex with him (I guess the kids were immaculately conceived) and was just a b**** from h*** and wouldn't divorce him. That's because he never requested one!

I found this all out a year or so later when I divorced him (lots of reasons, including infidelity) and he fought that divorce like crazy. Seriously, he dragged it out every possible. Anyway, this woman called me one night and went off on me, screaming and sobbing about how horrible I was fighting the divorce, and I had to tell her I was the one trying to get the divorce and she was welcome to him. The man totally lied to her. She found out how much when she married him--and divorced him herself five years later when he cheated on her.

Sometimes women think they are rescuing a man. I guess it's easier for them to believe how awful the wife must be than question the intentions of a Mr. Wonderful who, of course, finds Ms. Unattached irresistible.
Yep, in my case he made his wife sound like an ogre and like he was not compatible with her and I was perfect for him. It puts a woman in a weird position as the other woman in that you feel like you are so special because this man is confiding in you. I learned a lot in therapy. I was in therapy and on antidepressants for two years after I stopped seeing him. It really messed with my head in a way that is hard to explain. It's hard enough getting your heart broken, but when you can't even talk about it and your relationship was so "wrong" it's 1000 times worse.

I have no idea what he told his wife. I'm guessing that he wasn't completely honest with her. All I do know is that I ended up writing her a letter telling her what happened. I didn't do it because I wanted him but only because I wanted her to know what kind of a lying jerk she was married to. I figured I'd want to know if it was me. I don't know what ended up happening.
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Old Jun 26th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #45
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Same here! Girls who come on too strong with the sex card have a hard time getting anywhere on the career track. Their bosses see them as potential playmates, not potential executives. As my attorney husband said of one woman interning at his office, "Her behavior says she wants to marry a lawyer, not be one."
I actually don't know that that is the case. If a woman is flirty and acts (or is) dumb, maybe. If a woman is smart and flirty, she often gets ahead. It may not even be on purpose, but if you are someone that the powers that be like to work with, you get ahead (i.e., if you're a woman, and you're smart and you're flirty and dress somewhat provocatively, you get good work, and you're more popular at promotion time).

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