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Swanky Mama Of Three · Aug 5th, 2009, 04:05 PM

My DH most likely will since he travels A LOT and his Mom is in chemo right now and CANNOT afford any major illnesses. One of my twins is a little delicate respiratory-wise, but is allergic to eggs thus cannot have flu vaccines. Because of him and my MIL we all may get the shot. I'll decide by doing research and weighing the pros/cons before the vax is available.

ive_flipped · Aug 5th, 2009, 10:16 PM

I for sure will be doing more research on it. I am leaning towards it though because it has caused death in healthy people (adults and children) with NO pre existing conditions. That scares me. I have a healthcare back ground and now travel in and out of hospitals all over the province. I am in contact with very nasty bugs daily. I would hate to be the one that passes this on to my children or someone at risk. But then again I am very nervous at how quickly this vaccine will be out on the market.

DlkinVegas · Aug 6th, 2009, 11:14 AM

I have been thinking about this too. If I decide to keep my daughter in preschool through winter most likely she will get the shot. It just makes me nervous how quickly it's being put out.

Swanky Mama Of Three · Aug 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM

it is scary how quickly they're pulling this together and that there's no opportunity for testing - but on the contrary, if the Pharma companies DIDN'T rush this out they'd be getting complained about. They have a vested interest in not producing a product that's harmful, there's a lot of rules and guidelines in place for people to not have to worry about it being very dangerous. They've been making flu vax for years, this will be similar in chemistry. My DH is in the Pharma industry, if he feels comfortable recommending us to take it we probably will. He knows the backside of getting drugs approved via FDA, etc. . .

rbaby · Aug 6th, 2009, 11:39 AM

I'm way too worried to let DS get this vaccine. He is only 3 months now, and I hate to say it, but I think I will let others get the vax first and see what happens. He is not in daycare, so I'm hoping we can wait it out. It is a very personal decision though. Research is the best advice.

DlkinVegas · Aug 6th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Swanky Mama Of Three

it is scary how quickly they're pulling this together and that there's no opportunity for testing - but on the contrary, if the Pharma companies DIDN'T rush this out they'd be getting complained about. They have a vested interest in not producing a product that's harmful, there's a lot of rules and guidelines in place for people to not have to worry about it being very dangerous. They've been making flu vax for years, this will be similar in chemistry. My DH is in the Pharma industry, if he feels comfortable recommending us to take it we probably will. He knows the backside of getting drugs approved via FDA, etc. . .

I'm just not big on flu shots I don't get them neither does my husband. I really have to think it through now that my daughter is in school.

Vent: As it is she & I have been sick almost constantly since she started preschool in March. We made it almost through July without being sick & then right at the end of the month got colds. I have never been sick like this, not even as a kid! The reason I want to take her out of preschool is because I spent most of my summer sick I don't want to deal with it during the winter. I've noticed my daughter's preschool isn't very good at #1 enforcing the sick policy #2 making sure the kids wash their hands. Those two things make it even more important to consider the h1n1 shot if she continues school.

ive_flipped · Aug 6th, 2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Swanky Mama Of Three

it is scary how quickly they're pulling this together and that there's no opportunity for testing - but on the contrary, if the Pharma companies DIDN'T rush this out they'd be getting complained about. They have a vested interest in not producing a product that's harmful, there's a lot of rules and guidelines in place for people to not have to worry about it being very dangerous. They've been making flu vax for years, this will be similar in chemistry. My DH is in the Pharma industry, if he feels comfortable recommending us to take it we probably will. He knows the backside of getting drugs approved via FDA, etc. . .

Thanks swanky that was what i was thinking. It would be similar just a different flu strain in it.
It's great to hear from someone who has an in on the industry.

Swanky Mama Of Three · Aug 6th, 2009, 04:34 PM

^^we're also not big on the flu vax, well, DH is big on it but the rest of us aren't

I may get it once every 4-5 yrs.
It's different for us though now that the H1N1 flu has been so dangerous plus my MIL going through chemo and having an asthmatic young son makes our family feel very vulnerable.

mirdc · Aug 6th, 2009, 04:45 PM

We do not vaccinate. I am particularly horrified by the way they are rushing through this vaccine. The squalene adjuvant is particularly bothersome - there is a reason why the FDA has not approved it for use over the past 25 yrs. Dr. Moulden has some phenomenal research on brainscans of vaccinated individuals and the focal mini-strokes vaccines cause.

There were some interesting discussions on the radio the other night, you can listen to the MP3 of it at coasttocoastam . Here is the line-up of speakers:
During the first three hours, a special program on vaccinations and health concerns featured homeopathic & acupuncture physician Dr. Robin Falkov and three experts in alternative healthcare she invited to participate in the discussion. Barbara Loe Fisher, the co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), pointed out that legislation passed in the wake of 9-11 allows experimental vaccines to be tested on Americans without liability, in the event of a "public health emergency." And now with the advent of Swine Flu, the US government may be planning forced inoculations in schools this fall. She noted that "adjuvants" added to vaccines to make them more potent can cause problems for certain people. Fisher and Falkov advised people to educate themselves on vaccine risks and specific public health laws in their state.

Dr. Andrew Moulden spoke about medical discoveries that connect vaccinations to chronic disorders and disease, such as autism, ADHD, Sudden Infant Death, and Gulf War Syndrome. He believes that vaccines impair blood flow and introduce brain and body damages. Further, a number of vaccines contain aluminum, which he said was particularly problematic.

Jane Burgermeister talked about her filing of criminal charges in Austria against Baxter Healthcare and WHO, related to Baxter’s Austrian subsidiary distributing 72 kilos of vaccine material contaminated with live bird flu virus to sixteen laboratories. She considers this an act of bioterrorism rather than an accident.

Falkov recommended the Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Miller, and stressed that the possibility of mass vaccinations with an unproven, possibly toxic substance should serve as a wake-up call for people to join together on a community level and consider action.
The last hour of the show featured Open Lines.
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sweetneet · Aug 6th, 2009, 04:46 PM

i don't know about h1n1 but i am definitely getting the flu vax this coming season, being preggers and all. i had never gotten flu vaccines before and especially last year i didn't think i would need it at all since both DH & I worked from home, we had no kids and aside from trips to the supermarket etc we essentially lived in isolation (we just moved to a new area, didn't really know anybody in the neighborhood). but guess what, on New Years Day this year i ended up sick with Influenza A (was confirmed by a doctor). i don't know how i got it, but i did and i was sooo miserable for 3-4 days. Then of course my husband got it and while i was recovering I then had to take care of him. It sucked all around. I can't imagine dealing with it while pregnant and I do not want to put the baby at any risk so I am definitely getting the flu vaccine this time. I know many people automatically assume they are not at risk because their kids aren't in daycare or they dont' work outside the house..well i thought that too and somehow I still managed to get the flu, and that was enough to realize that was a wrong assumption. the doctor who treated me when I had the flu told me that you can easily get it just from someone coughing on you as the walk by you in the mall or at the supermarket, so it's pretty much impossible to 100% avoid getting it.

Nieners · Aug 6th, 2009, 06:02 PM

No, it's not as safe as people like to think. Even the doctors in our country agree with that. So I will not get any and def. for a baby!
I think it's all so overrated honestly - less people die from it when you compare it to the normal flu.
People that have it in my area are also really calm about it, they say they don't feel terribly sick and that it's just like any other time that they were sick.

I do have Tamiflu in our house.

omgsweet · Aug 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM

Here is what Dr. Sears says about this vaccine.

H1N1 Flu Vaccine is on it's Way. What Should Parents Do?
Thursday, July 30, 2009

Ever since the H1N1 flu hit the U.S., everyone has been wondering if and when a vaccine is going to come out, and whether or not the vaccine is going to be mandatory. Everyone seems to be in a panic over what to do. I haven’t really jumped in on this debate yet, as I was waiting for the dust to settle a bit and see what the government and health care policymakers decided to do. Well, the decision is very clear now. Yes, an H1N1 flu vaccine is due to be available in October. And it looks like there will be a choice between a nasal spray and a shot. This will be a separate vaccine from the regular seasonal flu vaccine. What should parents do?

My first piece of advice is to not even put any thought into this decision yet. We know nothing about the H1N1 flu vaccine ingredients. Will it contain mercury? What else will be in there? I can’t make a recommendation until I have that information. We also don’t know what the side effects will be. Will they be similar to the regular flu vaccine? Will they be more severe or less? There has been much worry over this issue because of reports that the last time the country had to produce a swine flu vaccine in the 1970s to thwart an expected outbreak (which ended up not happening), rates of Guillain-Barre reactions (GBS: temporary muscle weakness and/or paralysis) went through the roof that year. This is a known (but rare) side effect of the regular flu vaccine as well, but the reactions in the 1970s were reportedly much more than expected. So, will that be a worry with this H1N1 vaccine? We don’t know. This vaccine is different, but how different?

So, the bottom line is that I am going to reserve judgment on this issue until I see what the ingredients are and what the initial safety trials show. At that point, I still will probably not act. I will wait until the second round of safety trials are done, and wait at least a month or more for it to be used in the general population to see if GBS reactions are a worry. I definitely will not be the first office to offer the vaccine. If the safety pans out, I will then make a recommendation. But that won’t be expected until at least November. So, until then, I wouldn’t waste time and energy fretting about it.

Now, what you can fret about is whether or not the government will make the vaccine mandatory. Not “mandatory” in the sense that all vaccines are “required,” but parents can sign a waiver. I’m talking about mandatory in that Child Protective Services will take your kids away, or hold you back while they force the shot on your child. Yeah, that would be something to worry about. So, write your senator now and put in your two cents. OR, don’t even worry about it until they decide whether or not it’s mandatory, but by then it will be too late to make your voice heard.

Having put that conspiracy on the table, I will offer one piece of reassuring news. The latest report I just got from the AAP discusses their anticipation that not everyone who is recommended to get the flu shot will go out and get it. That tells me they aren’t thinking “mandatory” yet. However, I’ve also seen reports that the government is thinking about making it absolutely mandatory. I don’t know whom to believe yet.

Although they will be recommending the shot for everyone, they only plan to have about 120 million doses, so the CDC just announced a priority list for those at highest risk of suffering a severe case of the H1N1 flu (or those most likely to spread it to others): Pregnant women, health care workers, and children 6 months and older. Parents and anyone caring for infants, anyone with high-risk medical conditions (such as heart, lung, or immune diseases), and young adults ages 19-24 (not sure why) should also be given priority.

Just how bad is the H1N1 flu? Our experience so far indicates that it is a little worse than the regular flu, but it is not the rampaging epidemic that will sweep through the country and kill everybody. So why is the government so worried? It’s because the evil drug companies are paying them to act worried and create hype over the H1N1 flu so that the drug companies can make billions of dollars selling a vaccine that everyone will be scrambling for. The companies can then hand some of that money back to the government officials who helped them out.

I jest, but that is the worry many people have. Is this all just about money and not health? I have to believe that our government isn’t crooked enough to go that far. Am I just being naive? Some would say so. I don’t know.

What I hear from medical policy makers is that they are not so worried about what the H1N1 flu is like now, but about what it could become if it mutates and starts creating more severe disease. That’s why they are acting preemptively to try to stop it. Is that a good idea? I guess.

So, stay tuned for my November report. In the meantime, worry, or don’t worry. It’s up to you.

Dr. Bob

http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/

omgsweet · Aug 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM

double post.

hautecouture15 · Aug 9th, 2009, 10:43 PM

I would get it because I am recovering from swine flu atm (last day of tablets) and its horrible for me so I cant imagine a child having to cope with it. Also the tamiflu tablets you have to take to get rid of it have bad side effects ie sickness and when I took the first one I became disorientated and couldnt coordinate my body properly.

kimberf · Aug 9th, 2009, 11:35 PM

I'm another in the wait & see camp. I do usually get the regular flu vaccine, and DS got it last year. I'm asthmatic, so if I get any sort of respiratory bug, it takes me about a month and possibly a course of steroids, to get over it. I've also had really bad pneumonia with a 105 fever that required IV antibiotics. DS, when he was under a year, already had wheezing problems with colds before and required inhalers, so I do think vaccinations are a good idea. However, I'm not comfortable having either of us vaccinated with something that was thrown together.

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Swanky Mama Of Three Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Area Posts: 42,700	My DH most likely will since he travels A LOT and his Mom is in chemo right now and CANNOT afford any major illnesses. One of my twins is a little delicate respiratory-wise, but is allergic to eggs thus cannot have flu vaccines. Because of him and my MIL we all may get the shot. I'll decide by doing research and weighing the pros/cons before the vax is available.
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ive_flipped OP Chia Tang Joined: Jun 2007 Location: eh!!! Posts: 2,750	I for sure will be doing more research on it. I am leaning towards it though because it has caused death in healthy people (adults and children) with NO pre existing conditions. That scares me. I have a healthcare back ground and now travel in and out of hospitals all over the province. I am in contact with very nasty bugs daily. I would hate to be the one that passes this on to my children or someone at risk. But then again I am very nervous at how quickly this vaccine will be out on the market.
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Aug 6th, 2009, 11:14 AM	#18
DlkinVegas Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,415	I have been thinking about this too. If I decide to keep my daughter in preschool through winter most likely she will get the shot. It just makes me nervous how quickly it's being put out.
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Aug 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#19
Swanky Mama Of Three Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Area Posts: 42,700	it is scary how quickly they're pulling this together and that there's no opportunity for testing - but on the contrary, if the Pharma companies DIDN'T rush this out they'd be getting complained about. They have a vested interest in not producing a product that's harmful, there's a lot of rules and guidelines in place for people to not have to worry about it being very dangerous. They've been making flu vax for years, this will be similar in chemistry. My DH is in the Pharma industry, if he feels comfortable recommending us to take it we probably will. He knows the backside of getting drugs approved via FDA, etc. . .
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Aug 6th, 2009, 11:39 AM	#20
rbaby Insufficient Funds Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Asking for a credit increase Posts: 849	I'm way too worried to let DS get this vaccine. He is only 3 months now, and I hate to say it, but I think I will let others get the vax first and see what happens. He is not in daycare, so I'm hoping we can wait it out. It is a very personal decision though. Research is the best advice.
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Aug 6th, 2009, 04:34 PM	#23
Swanky Mama Of Three Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas Area Posts: 42,700	^^we're also not big on the flu vax, well, DH is big on it but the rest of us aren't I may get it once every 4-5 yrs. It's different for us though now that the H1N1 flu has been so dangerous plus my MIL going through chemo and having an asthmatic young son makes our family feel very vulnerable.
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Aug 6th, 2009, 04:45 PM	#24
mirdc purse oracle Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 280	We do not vaccinate. I am particularly horrified by the way they are rushing through this vaccine. The squalene adjuvant is particularly bothersome - there is a reason why the FDA has not approved it for use over the past 25 yrs. Dr. Moulden has some phenomenal research on brainscans of vaccinated individuals and the focal mini-strokes vaccines cause. There were some interesting discussions on the radio the other night, you can listen to the MP3 of it at coasttocoastam . Here is the line-up of speakers: During the first three hours, a special program on vaccinations and health concerns featured homeopathic & acupuncture physician Dr. Robin Falkov and three experts in alternative healthcare she invited to participate in the discussion. Barbara Loe Fisher, the co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), pointed out that legislation passed in the wake of 9-11 allows experimental vaccines to be tested on Americans without liability, in the event of a "public health emergency." And now with the advent of Swine Flu, the US government may be planning forced inoculations in schools this fall. She noted that "adjuvants" added to vaccines to make them more potent can cause problems for certain people. Fisher and Falkov advised people to educate themselves on vaccine risks and specific public health laws in their state. Dr. Andrew Moulden spoke about medical discoveries that connect vaccinations to chronic disorders and disease, such as autism, ADHD, Sudden Infant Death, and Gulf War Syndrome. He believes that vaccines impair blood flow and introduce brain and body damages. Further, a number of vaccines contain aluminum, which he said was particularly problematic. Jane Burgermeister talked about her filing of criminal charges in Austria against Baxter Healthcare and WHO, related to Baxter’s Austrian subsidiary distributing 72 kilos of vaccine material contaminated with live bird flu virus to sixteen laboratories. She considers this an act of bioterrorism rather than an accident. Falkov recommended the Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Miller, and stressed that the possibility of mass vaccinations with an unproven, possibly toxic substance should serve as a wake-up call for people to join together on a community level and consider action. The last hour of the show featured Open Lines. Website(s): healthfreedomrights.com nvic.org vaccineawakening.blogspot.com birdflu666.wordpress.com brainguardmd.com Book(s): A Shot in the Dark Vaccines, Autism & Chronic Inflammation: The New Epidemic The Consumer's Guide to Childhood Vaccines
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Aug 6th, 2009, 04:46 PM	#25
sweetneet 妊娠してるの！ Joined: Aug 2007 Location: at IKEA ♫ Posts: 5,950	i don't know about h1n1 but i am definitely getting the flu vax this coming season, being preggers and all. i had never gotten flu vaccines before and especially last year i didn't think i would need it at all since both DH & I worked from home, we had no kids and aside from trips to the supermarket etc we essentially lived in isolation (we just moved to a new area, didn't really know anybody in the neighborhood). but guess what, on New Years Day this year i ended up sick with Influenza A (was confirmed by a doctor). i don't know how i got it, but i did and i was sooo miserable for 3-4 days. Then of course my husband got it and while i was recovering I then had to take care of him. It sucked all around. I can't imagine dealing with it while pregnant and I do not want to put the baby at any risk so I am definitely getting the flu vaccine this time. I know many people automatically assume they are not at risk because their kids aren't in daycare or they dont' work outside the house..well i thought that too and somehow I still managed to get the flu, and that was enough to realize that was a wrong assumption. the doctor who treated me when I had the flu told me that you can easily get it just from someone coughing on you as the walk by you in the mall or at the supermarket, so it's pretty much impossible to 100% avoid getting it.
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Aug 9th, 2009, 10:34 PM	#27
omgsweet omg...cute bag!! Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Scottsdale, Az Posts: 2,963	Here is what Dr. Sears says about this vaccine. H1N1 Flu Vaccine is on it's Way. What Should Parents Do? Thursday, July 30, 2009 Ever since the H1N1 flu hit the U.S., everyone has been wondering if and when a vaccine is going to come out, and whether or not the vaccine is going to be mandatory. Everyone seems to be in a panic over what to do. I haven’t really jumped in on this debate yet, as I was waiting for the dust to settle a bit and see what the government and health care policymakers decided to do. Well, the decision is very clear now. Yes, an H1N1 flu vaccine is due to be available in October. And it looks like there will be a choice between a nasal spray and a shot. This will be a separate vaccine from the regular seasonal flu vaccine. What should parents do? My first piece of advice is to not even put any thought into this decision yet. We know nothing about the H1N1 flu vaccine ingredients. Will it contain mercury? What else will be in there? I can’t make a recommendation until I have that information. We also don’t know what the side effects will be. Will they be similar to the regular flu vaccine? Will they be more severe or less? There has been much worry over this issue because of reports that the last time the country had to produce a swine flu vaccine in the 1970s to thwart an expected outbreak (which ended up not happening), rates of Guillain-Barre reactions (GBS: temporary muscle weakness and/or paralysis) went through the roof that year. This is a known (but rare) side effect of the regular flu vaccine as well, but the reactions in the 1970s were reportedly much more than expected. So, will that be a worry with this H1N1 vaccine? We don’t know. This vaccine is different, but how different? So, the bottom line is that I am going to reserve judgment on this issue until I see what the ingredients are and what the initial safety trials show. At that point, I still will probably not act. I will wait until the second round of safety trials are done, and wait at least a month or more for it to be used in the general population to see if GBS reactions are a worry. I definitely will not be the first office to offer the vaccine. If the safety pans out, I will then make a recommendation. But that won’t be expected until at least November. So, until then, I wouldn’t waste time and energy fretting about it. Now, what you can fret about is whether or not the government will make the vaccine mandatory. Not “mandatory” in the sense that all vaccines are “required,” but parents can sign a waiver. I’m talking about mandatory in that Child Protective Services will take your kids away, or hold you back while they force the shot on your child. Yeah, that would be something to worry about. So, write your senator now and put in your two cents. OR, don’t even worry about it until they decide whether or not it’s mandatory, but by then it will be too late to make your voice heard. Having put that conspiracy on the table, I will offer one piece of reassuring news. The latest report I just got from the AAP discusses their anticipation that not everyone who is recommended to get the flu shot will go out and get it. That tells me they aren’t thinking “mandatory” yet. However, I’ve also seen reports that the government is thinking about making it absolutely mandatory. I don’t know whom to believe yet. Although they will be recommending the shot for everyone, they only plan to have about 120 million doses, so the CDC just announced a priority list for those at highest risk of suffering a severe case of the H1N1 flu (or those most likely to spread it to others): Pregnant women, health care workers, and children 6 months and older. Parents and anyone caring for infants, anyone with high-risk medical conditions (such as heart, lung, or immune diseases), and young adults ages 19-24 (not sure why) should also be given priority. Just how bad is the H1N1 flu? Our experience so far indicates that it is a little worse than the regular flu, but it is not the rampaging epidemic that will sweep through the country and kill everybody. So why is the government so worried? It’s because the evil drug companies are paying them to act worried and create hype over the H1N1 flu so that the drug companies can make billions of dollars selling a vaccine that everyone will be scrambling for. The companies can then hand some of that money back to the government officials who helped them out. I jest, but that is the worry many people have. Is this all just about money and not health? I have to believe that our government isn’t crooked enough to go that far. Am I just being naive? Some would say so. I don’t know. What I hear from medical policy makers is that they are not so worried about what the H1N1 flu is like now, but about what it could become if it mutates and starts creating more severe disease. That’s why they are acting preemptively to try to stop it. Is that a good idea? I guess. So, stay tuned for my November report. In the meantime, worry, or don’t worry. It’s up to you. Dr. Bob http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/
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Aug 9th, 2009, 10:43 PM	#29
hautecouture15 Member Joined: Oct 2006 Location: essex Posts: 1,551	I would get it because I am recovering from swine flu atm (last day of tablets) and its horrible for me so I cant imagine a child having to cope with it. Also the tamiflu tablets you have to take to get rid of it have bad side effects ie sickness and when I took the first one I became disorientated and couldnt coordinate my body properly.
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Aug 9th, 2009, 11:35 PM	#30
kimberf Member Joined: Mar 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,868	I'm another in the wait & see camp. I do usually get the regular flu vaccine, and DS got it last year. I'm asthmatic, so if I get any sort of respiratory bug, it takes me about a month and possibly a course of steroids, to get over it. I've also had really bad pneumonia with a 105 fever that required IV antibiotics. DS, when he was under a year, already had wheezing problems with colds before and required inhalers, so I do think vaccinations are a good idea. However, I'm not comfortable having either of us vaccinated with something that was thrown together.

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