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hulahoop · Nov 3rd, 2009, 04:58 PM

^^^ because there will always be people who wont be happy with the whole thing, maybe its just easier?

korzinka · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by sjmidd

Bought it. That beauty is mine

Congratulations! Your beauty was sold on the 1st of November for £306.
You have just given an extra £120 for the privilege. I am sure, it is worth the reassurance, and ~I am sure, you will be so happy to part with your ~£120 extra cash in order to buy from a reputable seller.

However, to be honest, you will have the benefit of choosing to return the item if you wish, having bought from a business seller.

hulahoop · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:05 PM

*sigh*

korzinka · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:11 PM

[QUOTE=hulahoop;13006254]If, MM does do what you suggest above (and how do you even know this by the way???)

She does, as all the other "reputable ebay Mulberry sellers" do.
Some of them, when asked, will honestly admit, some will lie and say "oh, this was the bag from my mother-in -law..."

There is nothing surprising about this, hunting items for reselling is a full -time job, so nobody will be expected to do it for free.
Some best bargains gets snapped 5-7 min after the listing starts - it means someone is watching their emails all the time!

There is nothing wrong with what they do! But, we buyers should consider it with open eyes and make our decisions well informed.
I would say, this printed bayswater is a good buy for £429. However, it would have been even better buy if the reseller had not intervened between a seller(who ended up getting £306) and a buyer(who spent £429) - they would have agreed £360 and both better off...

hulahoop · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=korzinka;13006654]

Originally Posted by hulahoop

If, MM does do what you suggest above (and how do you even know this by the way???)

She does, as all the other "reputable ebay Mulberry sellers" do.
Some of them, when asked, will honestly admit, some will lie and say "oh, this was the bag from my mother-in -law..."

There is nothing surprising about this, hunting items for reselling is a full -time job, so nobody will be expected to do it for free.
Some best bargains gets snapped 5-7 min after the listing starts - it means someone is watching their emails all the time!

There is nothing wrong with what they do! But, we buyers should consider it with open eyes and make our decisions well informed.
I would say, this printed bayswater is a good buy for £429. However, it would have been even better buy if the reseller had not intervened between a seller(who ended up getting £306) and a buyer(who spent £429) - they would have agreed £360 and both better off...

But surely buyers do? They know the bag has been bought from somewhere (no one has a personal collection that large!), and they must realise that as a business, the seller is not going to sell the bag on to make a loss?

Slowhand · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:21 PM

It's a level playing field that we are all playing on .MM didn't ' intervene ' - she placed the highest bid. Simple.
The margin she made is less costs and tax - and I for one hope she is in highest tax band because I applaud successful businesses.

Tote Girl · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:27 PM

In almost every case you can find a bag similar to the ones being sold by MM on ebay selling for a lower price. Most people know that, but reputation in an area where there are so many fakes and scams means that for many buyers paying a premium is money well spent. She also has to account for tax on the goods she sells so it's not all straight profit.

Also as a seller I know if I sell to someone like her she will pay and be honest in the transaction. None of the non paying bidder nonsense or buyers claiming they didn't get the parcel when in fact they did or buyers claiming the goods were damaged etc etc.

The fact so many knowledgable people on here continue to buy from MM speaks for itself. The bottom line isn't everything to everyone.

korzinka · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=hulahoop;13006683]

Originally Posted by korzinka

But surely buyers do? They know the bag has been bought from somewhere (no one has a personal collection that large!), and they must realise that as a business, the seller is not going to sell the bag on to make a loss?

I think very many buyers do not realise that their "surely authentic" bags
(for which they pay a fortune to established sellers) come from unverified ebay sourses originally, and that "authenticity guaranteed" means only "I believe the bag is authentic to the best of my knowledge, I am experienced, and will refund if not authentic, I might have received it 2 days ago from a zero feedback seller in the USA"!

Tote Girl · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:48 PM

It does not matter whether the bag comes from a seller with zero feedback in the USA or 1000000000 feedback from UK. The only pertinent matter is whether the bag is authentic or not. MM takes a chance on buying the bag from the zero feedback US seller, if it does turn out to be genuine she's got a deal if she's bought a dud she does not sell it, simple as that unless you have evidence to suggest the contrary Korzinka in which case by all means post the full details.

LovinMyMulberry · Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:59 PM

Going to add my wee bit .. & terribly sorry if it offends, but all is fair in love & war & what not.

I have sold many Mulberry bags/items.

To be honest, I would rather it went for a much lower price to someone who GENUINELY wants it .. not someone who will rub it over with a cloth & then sell it on for three times what they paid for it.

This is just MY opinion ... & it is due to the fact that I know there are many people out there who cannot afford to buy more expensive Mulberry bags ... but who desperately want to have one (why, this was me just about 2 years ago when I was finding things tough with my business but really wanted a nice piece of luxury.)

So, is it wrong for me not to want the resellers (whoever they are) not to get my bags for that reason? Am I somehow being unreasonable for wanting it to go to someone who REALLY wants it? What is so wrong with that? Yes they could get one from a reseller for X amount more .. but why should they when they can get them elsewhere cheaper?

Not trying to "rock the boat" ... just giving MY opinion!

korzinka · Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Tote Girl

It does not matter whether the bag comes from a seller with zero feedback in the USA or 1000000000 feedback from UK. The only pertinent matter is whether the bag is authentic or not. MM takes a chance on buying the bag from the zero feedback US seller, if it does turn out to be genuine she's got a deal if she's bought a dud she does not sell it, simple as that unless you have evidence to suggest the contrary Korzinka in which case by all means post the full details.

I do not and did not dispute the authenticity of the bags that are sold by "reputable sellers". I also am well aware of the costs, tax, etc.
I personally like reassurance and customer service , that's why my printed Baywater comes from Harrods. Someone pays £429 on ebay for "trusted" bag without receipt, I paid £150 more to even more reputable, trusted and sussessful seller - Harrods.

Tote Girl · Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:51 PM

Well reputation is all about opinion isn't it. You have your views and others have theirs. As for Harrods, if I wanted a reciept from a reputable seller I'd keep on walking down the street and buy from the nearby Mulberry Knightsbridge store. I prefer the reputation of the owners of Mulberry to that of Harrods.

Good night.

HandbagAddict4Ever · Nov 3rd, 2009, 07:16 PM

I can see both sides to this discussion, having missed out on a number of auctions recently. I didn't even consider the thought of some buyers being business resellers, which is a fair enough point. Although, lovinmymuberry's post made a lot of sense to me. Also wanted to say I have purchased from MM and had wonderful service and a beautiful bag...I currently have another one on the way...which I think was fairly priced and a bit of a bargain!

suesmithmrs · Nov 4th, 2009, 05:46 AM

some people do nothing but moan !!!

flyvetjo · Nov 4th, 2009, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by suesmithmrs

some people do nothing but moan !!!

I say good on MM for making a business out of it.

If you want a bag and know what you want to pay for it then bid on it. Don't bellyache that someone else bid higher and got it then re-sold it for a profit. That's business.

If you want a bag to go to a loving home gift it or sell it to a friend. I'd like to think the bags I've sold on e-bay have gone to appreciative homes but in the end I'm after the money and a bag is only an inanimate object. If it had sentimental value I wouldn't be selling in the first place.

Personally I'm happier to pay a bit more to purchase from MM or lovehandbags rather than an unknown private e-bay seller who might scam me.

Just my opinion.

Nov 3rd, 2009, 04:58 PM	#31
hulahoop no more bags! Joined: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,142	^^^ because there will always be people who wont be happy with the whole thing, maybe its just easier?
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:05 PM	#33
hulahoop no more bags! Joined: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,142	sigh
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:11 PM	#34
korzinka Member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 192	[QUOTE=hulahoop;13006254]If, MM does do what you suggest above (and how do you even know this by the way???) She does, as all the other "reputable ebay Mulberry sellers" do. Some of them, when asked, will honestly admit, some will lie and say "oh, this was the bag from my mother-in -law..." There is nothing surprising about this, hunting items for reselling is a full -time job, so nobody will be expected to do it for free. Some best bargains gets snapped 5-7 min after the listing starts - it means someone is watching their emails all the time! There is nothing wrong with what they do! But, we buyers should consider it with open eyes and make our decisions well informed. I would say, this printed bayswater is a good buy for £429. However, it would have been even better buy if the reseller had not intervened between a seller(who ended up getting £306) and a buyer(who spent £429) - they would have agreed £360 and both better off...
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:21 PM	#36
Slowhand Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 884	It's a level playing field that we are all playing on .MM didn't ' intervene ' - she placed the highest bid. Simple. The margin she made is less costs and tax - and I for one hope she is in highest tax band because I applaud successful businesses.
Slowhand Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 884	__________________ My growing family: Ginger Rosemary Oak Roxanne Chestnut vintage saddle bag Chocolate Roxanne Teal Antony Black Roxanne Oak Phoebe Chocolate vintage congo saddle bag Chestnut vintage congo tote Wish list Hmmm Something Olive maybe ?

Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:27 PM	#37
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440	In almost every case you can find a bag similar to the ones being sold by MM on ebay selling for a lower price. Most people know that, but reputation in an area where there are so many fakes and scams means that for many buyers paying a premium is money well spent. She also has to account for tax on the goods she sells so it's not all straight profit. Also as a seller I know if I sell to someone like her she will pay and be honest in the transaction. None of the non paying bidder nonsense or buyers claiming they didn't get the parcel when in fact they did or buyers claiming the goods were damaged etc etc. The fact so many knowledgable people on here continue to buy from MM speaks for itself. The bottom line isn't everything to everyone.
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440

Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:48 PM	#39
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440	It does not matter whether the bag comes from a seller with zero feedback in the USA or 1000000000 feedback from UK. The only pertinent matter is whether the bag is authentic or not. MM takes a chance on buying the bag from the zero feedback US seller, if it does turn out to be genuine she's got a deal if she's bought a dud she does not sell it, simple as that unless you have evidence to suggest the contrary Korzinka in which case by all means post the full details.
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440

Nov 3rd, 2009, 05:59 PM	#40
LovinMyMulberry Mulberry Poppins Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Glasgow - Scotland Posts: 6,482	Going to add my wee bit .. & terribly sorry if it offends, but all is fair in love & war & what not. I have sold many Mulberry bags/items. To be honest, I would rather it went for a much lower price to someone who GENUINELY wants it .. not someone who will rub it over with a cloth & then sell it on for three times what they paid for it. This is just MY opinion ... & it is due to the fact that I know there are many people out there who cannot afford to buy more expensive Mulberry bags ... but who desperately want to have one (why, this was me just about 2 years ago when I was finding things tough with my business but really wanted a nice piece of luxury.) So, is it wrong for me not to want the resellers (whoever they are) not to get my bags for that reason? Am I somehow being unreasonable for wanting it to go to someone who REALLY wants it? What is so wrong with that? Yes they could get one from a reseller for X amount more .. but why should they when they can get them elsewhere cheaper? Not trying to "rock the boat" ... just giving MY opinion!
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 06:51 PM	#42
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440	Well reputation is all about opinion isn't it. You have your views and others have theirs. As for Harrods, if I wanted a reciept from a reputable seller I'd keep on walking down the street and buy from the nearby Mulberry Knightsbridge store. I prefer the reputation of the owners of Mulberry to that of Harrods. Good night.
Tote Girl Member Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,440

Nov 3rd, 2009, 07:16 PM	#43
HandbagAddict4Ever Member Joined: Apr 2006 Location: London Posts: 2,299	I can see both sides to this discussion, having missed out on a number of auctions recently. I didn't even consider the thought of some buyers being business resellers, which is a fair enough point. Although, lovinmymuberry's post made a lot of sense to me. Also wanted to say I have purchased from MM and had wonderful service and a beautiful bag...I currently have another one on the way...which I think was fairly priced and a bit of a bargain!
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Nov 4th, 2009, 05:46 AM	#44
suesmithmrs Member Joined: Sep 2008 Location: kent Posts: 636	some people do nothing but moan !!!

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