Now I seem to have been lucky and my Bays holds its shape well, but I think the photos show the difference the base liner makes. Hope this helps anyone who is having an issue with a saggy/slouchy bottom
If I was going to order this again, I would have measured slightly tighter length ways, as I left some space which means it may have the potential to move around a bit at the bottom of the bag. I didn't want to measure too tight as I didn't want it to look really obvious that there was something at the bottom of the bag, but I think I was a bit too conservative when I measured.
It really does depend on the leather your bag is made from, the weight you put into it and how - eg: balanced or not - as much as frequency of use.
Absolutely fair point - and I reckon a structured liner will enable contents to be more neatly and securely packed, so therefore a more even weight distribution. My, how technical us ladies become with our bag issues!!!.....
I've had mine for about 4 years (black Buffalo shine), I've used it a lot (I used to use it for work with my laptop in it) and it has become slouchy which I really like. When I put stuff inside it holds its shape perfectly but when empty it doesn't stand on its own. It's a big plus for me as I love slouchy bags and it's great to have a work bag that looks structured and still relaxed