Disappointed w/ new Tivoli PM!!!

[shopsinparis]

You have really gotten my curiosity now since I hadn't noticed any pleat issues before. I checked out my PM, and the vachetta tag point is in the middle of the pleats. The pleats are 'soft' (not a sharp, crisp pleat) which could explain this issue because the pleats extend depending on how much is in your bag. At any rate, good luck with your quest.

[azatsui]

Originally Posted by Luv2BuyBags

I got my GM right when they came out and my date code is MB 3067. What does MB mean?

This is the date code. There is a section on this blog about Date codes and which country and when it was made. MB is France and I believe it is the 36th week of 2007. But you can check just to make sure.

[azatsui]

Originally Posted by potato

Thanks for all your comments, everyone! I ended up taking my tivoli back with the intentions of exchanging it. The SA brought out 3 other tivoli pm's for me to look at and they were much worse than mine. They were also "smaller" than the one i had - it's hard to explain, but the entire bag, everything was smaller. They were about 1.5 inches shorter(height wise) and about half an inch shorter, length wise. Also, the pleats were much more misaligned than the one i had! What i mean by misaligned is that the piece of vachetta that says "Louis vuitton, etc..", where it comes to a point, there is where the pleats start. Well, one pleat would be aligned right at the point and the next pleat was a cm away. So it wasn't symmetrical. One of the SA's (i think she was new) told me that they're suppose to be made unsymmetrically. is that true?!? I don't understand why they would do that! I think she was just trying to get me to keep the bag. In the end i just returned it because I know it would bother me everytime i used it and really, for paying that much for a bag, i think it should be symmetrical! haha :) I think i'll just check back later to see if i they have one that symmetrical. Has anyone else had this experience?

Do you happen to remember the date code on your bag? I am looking at mine as well and I was considering exchanging it because of a small blemish but if they are smaller, I will keep mine. My code is VI 5007.

[Limarie]

Originally Posted by potato

Thanks for all your comments, everyone! I ended up taking my tivoli back with the intentions of exchanging it. The SA brought out 3 other tivoli pm's for me to look at and they were much worse than mine. They were also "smaller" than the one i had - it's hard to explain, but the entire bag, everything was smaller. They were about 1.5 inches shorter(height wise) and about half an inch shorter, length wise. Also, the pleats were much more misaligned than the one i had! What i mean by misaligned is that the piece of vachetta that says "Louis vuitton, etc..", where it comes to a point, there is where the pleats start. Well, one pleat would be aligned right at the point and the next pleat was a cm away. So it wasn't symmetrical. One of the SA's (i think she was new) told me that they're suppose to be made unsymmetrically. is that true?!? I don't understand why they would do that! I think she was just trying to get me to keep the bag. In the end i just returned it because I know it would bother me everytime i used it and really, for paying that much for a bag, i think it should be symmetrical! haha :) I think i'll just check back later to see if i they have one that symmetrical. Has anyone else had this experience?

[IMG]file:///Users/Lisa/Desktop/CIMG0004.JPG[/IMG]I don't know if this is any help, but I thought some pics on this thread might be useful. For reference, I got my GM right away and it was made in France.

I attached two pics of my Tivoli GM: one is of the inside lining (which I don't think really sparkles although you may see a little reflexion) and the other picture is pleating. I don't have any issues with either, but I thought a few pics wouldn't hurt since I already had them on my computer.

**Sorry the pictures won't upload, an error keeps popping up for some reason- if anyone knows how to fix this I will try again!**

[q_mocha]

Originally Posted by potato

I just picked up my tivoli pm that I had been waiting forever for and I am quite disappointed. I was one of the lucky ones to get a tivoli when it first came out, but I returned it to get my mom BV for christmas. Well, the tivoli I just picked up doesn't seem to be made as well as the first "batch". The lining on the inside isn't that nice glossy brown canvas w/ the gold sparkle anymore, but just the regular thick brown canvas. Also, the red dye by the zipper seems to have not been put on well - it is sort of flaky and uneven! The pleats in the bag also do not seem to be lined up evenly. WTF?! I should have checked it closer at the store before I took it home w/ me. Now I am really regretting the fact that I returned my original tivoli!!! Anyone else have this same experience with your tivoli??

OMG, I just found this thread because ChocoGrace mentioned this on another discussion page. I have the same problem with my Tivoli PM but I never paid attention to it. My main issue with my Tivoli is the red glaze problem around the zipper. It looks Very flaky just like you said and toward the end of the zipper the red glaze had already faded to almost nothing left. It makes it look like this bag is aged for years. But I had only got it for 2 weeks and carried it 3 times. I noticed the glaze problem on the day I picked it up but did not ask the SA about it. I regret it now. Although my pleats look normal but the LV Paris tag above the pleat looks just a tad off balance. It's not very noticeable with first glance. The zipper is a very sticky on mine, hard to close with one hand. I have to use both hand in order to close. I was hoping that it will loosen up with use. My lining is brown canvas with no glitter. Mine is also made in France. Today after learning your story, I think I will go back to my store and ask if I can exchange for another one. Thanks potato for posting and ChocoGrace for referring. Hopefully you will be able to fine a perfect Tivoli PM for yourself one day.

[Chipper]

Oh, Qmocha...glad to be of help, even if it was upsetting news...do you have pictures of your pm with those issues you mentioned? I have no clue what everyone is talking about but I still want a tivoli pm...I'm crazy.

Ok, keep us updated and I hope they get you a perfect one when you go to the store!

Originally Posted by q_mocha

OMG, I just found this thread because ChocoGrace mentioned this on another discussion page. I have the same problem with my Tivoli PM but I never paid attention to it. My main issue with my Tivoli is the red glaze problem around the zipper. It looks Very flaky just like you said and toward the end of the zipper the red glaze had already faded to almost nothing left. It makes it look like this bag is aged for years. But I had only got it for 2 weeks and carried it 3 times. I noticed the glaze problem on the day I picked it up but did not ask the SA about it. I regret it now. Although my pleats look normal but the LV Paris tag above the pleat looks just a tad off balance. It's not very noticeable with first glance. The zipper is a very sticky on mine, hard to close with one hand. I have to use both hand in order to close. I was hoping that it will loosen up with use. My lining is brown canvas with no glitter. Mine is also made in France. Today after learning your story, I think I will go back to my store and ask if I can exchange for another one. Thanks potato for posting and ChocoGrace for referring. Hopefully you will be able to fine a perfect Tivoli PM for yourself one day.

[takeoutbox]

i would like to see pix too, i have no idea what the op is takling about, i got my tivoli when it was first released, after seeing this thread i went and checked the lining, there's definitely no sparkle, so not sure if it's one of the 'bad' ones.

[q_mocha]

Originally Posted by ChocoGrace

Oh, Qmocha...glad to be of help, even if it was upsetting news...do you have pictures of your pm with those issues you mentioned? I have no clue what everyone is talking about but I still want a tivoli pm...I'm crazy. Ok, keep us updated and I hope they get you a perfect one when you go to the store!

Yeah, I'll try to upload some clear pictures when I get my camera tomorrow. My sis borrowed it for a trip and returning tomorrow. I tried taking some with my phone, but very blurry. I also have suspicion that mine Tivoli PM is not a brand new one when I purchased it, because I realized that new ones should have a plastic cover protecting the zipper pull. But mine doesn't have it when I got it from the store. She told me it's brand new. I will try to call and find out if they can exchange it or if not, maybe fix the glaze and zipper problem for me. I still love this bag, but would prefer the original version. I think you definitely get Tivoli PM, just make sure that you bring home a perfect one from the store.
p.s btw how do I get my profile picture to show next to my posts? I am new to the forum.

[Chipper]

^^^LOL, thanks. Ok, for profile pic, go to the link at the top called "my control panel" and click on "my profile"...that should lead you to be able to upload a very tiny pic. Also, try the search function if that didn't make any sense

[potato]

wow - i'm kind of glad other people are noticing the same problems that i saw with mine. i was beg. to think that i was just being overreactive and obsessive about my bags being perfect!!

Originally Posted by takeoutbox

i would like to see pix too, i have no idea what the op is takling about, i got my tivoli when it was first released, after seeing this thread i went and checked the lining, there's definitely no sparkle, so not sure if it's one of the 'bad' ones.

i don't think that having a lining with no sparkle means having a 'bad' tivoli. It was just what i had known the tivoli's for having since the first one i had, had the sparkly/glittery lining. I'm beginning to think that it just depended on where they were made, they used different linings. :)

[SweetPurple]

Sorry you are disappointed with your bag, definitely take it back and exchange for something else.

[Chipper]

Potato, can you post a picture of yours?

[Lovelove]

mm. I bought a PM right after it came out and I had handle not lining correctly problem so I returned it. I assume that was "first batch" which I didn't find anything special like gold sparkling??
and after a month I got another tivoli PM which I guess "second batch" and it looks fine to me but the handles look longer than the "first batch". maybe because bag got smaller? mm but my bag is same size as what LV.com says. though.. weird.
as far as glazing goes around zipper, my first batch had poor glazing not that it's perfect now but it's okay. also due to shape of zipper, it is hard to open and close and I heard it will get loosen up.
well. I'm not sure if my Tivoli's perfect but I'm happy with it :)
and those two of Tivoli pm I got(one from LV.com the other shipped from AZ didn't have plastic around zipper pull. mm I'd like to see some pics, if possible

Hope everyone will find perfect Tivoli!!

[Lovelove]

well. I was just curious and took some pics of my Tivoli
Do you guys see any defects that I don't?
Should I be worried?

[azatsui]

Originally Posted by Lovelove

well. I was just curious and took some pics of my Tivoli Do you guys see any defects that I don't? Should I be worried?

Yours looks great. Now that see yours, I noticed that mine does not line up well where the pleats are. I am going to LV tomorrow because I had these weird little black marks on the leather part of the purse. Although they are small, LV Hawaii told me not to touch them and to bring the bag back. I think they are just trying to produce so many of these bags that some of the quality is not there. But I think yours looks fine.