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clarissa74 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 12:40 AM

The news is very bad...

There is a mafia/yakuza racket going on with a new line of "SUPER FAKE"

These are so good I was ALMOST (almost - but not 100%) fooled.

The items are presently being sold out of Japan! I suspect the yakuza is involved in this fraud.

THIS IS A SERIOUS CRIME AND I WANT YOU TO BE VERY CAREFUL!

I fear the average user will not be aware of this until much later.

The seller is from Japan and is a Poupette member! Poupette refused to answer any of my emails. I suspect this fraud is just the tip of the iceberg.

What am I talking about.... well... these new fakes have the following traits:-

1) almost perfect condition - with no marks, scratches, lines
2) the stamping is the give away. The Font is wrong and the imprinting is not 100% consistant - (1 side is more heavily impressed than the other side).
3) the leather has been aged with chemicals to look like vintage patina - however this is just low quality leather that has been aged.
4) the brassware is not 100% right.
5) the fraudsters are putting real parts with the fakes! ie. real LV locks are being used. Often they will state the keys are lost. But this is just to give it some vintage feel.
6) the "look" of the item is 95% right..... however the feel is wrong.
7) the brassware is beign treated with acid/chemicals to tarnish - in an effort to give patina.
8) the leather parts are being artifically aged with dyes/chemicals. A chemical test will reveal this.
9) they are faking monogram.... but how long till damier?

The item I have discovered is a keepall. The seller has absolutely destroyed the resale value of keepalls! Unfortunately they are fakes!

I have extensive photos of these replica junk..... happy to post if wanted.

bagladie112 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:00 AM

u should definitely post pics! thankx so much for the heads up.....i have yet to purchase my first lv but i plan on doing so real soon....i already said that i'll be buying from the boutique....lv is the most replicated designer in the world so why would i trust flea-bay with such a special purchase....lol

mercx5 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:18 AM

Thanks for the heads up. I think we have to be more careful, don't be fooled by what the seller says.

bagladie112 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:20 AM

i have noticed that some of the speedies on e-bay said they were missing the keys...so that was a little strange....

Miss Kris · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by bagladie112

i have noticed that some of the speedies on e-bay said they were missing the keys...so that was a little strange....

It's kind of easy to lose the keys though.. they are so small and unless you hang them from the lock, they are a pain to store. I have mine hanging from the lock because I KNOW I would lose them within a week! LOL

bagladie112 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:24 AM

yeah they seem easy to lose but like ten listings of the same bag had missing keys...it was odd but i guess that doesn't mean they're fake lol

Pierito510 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:20 AM

yeah post photos please...

takoyoshi · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:27 AM

Why are you targeting items leaving japan? I have seen many items leaving japan as authentic. Please show us pictures and if anything they are without a doubt coming from China..

brahh · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:28 AM

Pictures please. I always get my bags authenticated here, these are things the LV Authenticators would pick up on, right? But, making bags that look "too real" is not good. I hate this. I read an article in Vogue talking about how these black market bags affect the economy. It's unreal!!! Lots of money!!! I hope LV goes after them, and quick!

brahh · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by takoyoshi

Why are you targeting items leaving japan? I have seen many items leaving japan as authentic. Please show us pictures and if anything they are without a doubt coming from China..

So, you think nothing fake could come from Japan?????

takoyoshi · Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:44 AM

All i am saying is that it much more probable and likely that its coming from china or south east asia. I just wanted to know how he derived the yakusa accusations and some pictures?

h1008 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:07 AM

I've looked at their auctions, too. The patina is an odd color and very very consistent between bags. The brass is also uniformly tarnished on all of the bags. What look like new bags have older heat stamps on them, and different stamps are used. Always an old lock of what appears to be the same age.

Lee69 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 04:52 AM

OP, please post pictures of this so called "super fake".

clarissa74 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:05 AM

Hello,
I have just returned this fake junk to the seller for a full refund....

The pictures do not reveal the SMELL and FEEL of the object....

Stamping is wrong - wrong font, should be capital F for France (small f is early 80s - not possible in this condition).

Chemicals used to tarnish brassware....

Real Lock.... but see the chemicals to age it! this lock number is only a newish number also!

clarissa74 · Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:07 AM

I agree - these are probably made in China (low labour cost).....
HOWEVER they are being sold on ebay from Japan! I firmly believe the Yakuza is involved.....

Originally Posted by takoyoshi

All i am saying is that it much more probable and likely that its coming from china or south east asia. I just wanted to know how he derived the yakusa accusations and some pictures?

Jul 3rd, 2009, 12:40 AM	#1
clarissa74 OP Sofa King Banned Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 102	Beware everybody... SUPER FAKES HIT EBAY. The news is very bad... There is a mafia/yakuza racket going on with a new line of "SUPER FAKE" These are so good I was ALMOST (almost - but not 100%) fooled. The items are presently being sold out of Japan! I suspect the yakuza is involved in this fraud. THIS IS A SERIOUS CRIME AND I WANT YOU TO BE VERY CAREFUL! I fear the average user will not be aware of this until much later. The seller is from Japan and is a Poupette member! Poupette refused to answer any of my emails. I suspect this fraud is just the tip of the iceberg. What am I talking about.... well... these new fakes have the following traits:- 1) almost perfect condition - with no marks, scratches, lines 2) the stamping is the give away. The Font is wrong and the imprinting is not 100% consistant - (1 side is more heavily impressed than the other side). 3) the leather has been aged with chemicals to look like vintage patina - however this is just low quality leather that has been aged. 4) the brassware is not 100% right. 5) the fraudsters are putting real parts with the fakes! ie. real LV locks are being used. Often they will state the keys are lost. But this is just to give it some vintage feel. 6) the "look" of the item is 95% right..... however the feel is wrong. 7) the brassware is beign treated with acid/chemicals to tarnish - in an effort to give patina. 8) the leather parts are being artifically aged with dyes/chemicals. A chemical test will reveal this. 9) they are faking monogram.... but how long till damier? The item I have discovered is a keepall. The seller has absolutely destroyed the resale value of keepalls! Unfortunately they are fakes! I have extensive photos of these replica junk..... happy to post if wanted.
	Last edited by clarissa74; Jul 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 AM. Reason: grammar

Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:00 AM	#2
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	u should definitely post pics! thankx so much for the heads up.....i have yet to purchase my first lv but i plan on doing so real soon....i already said that i'll be buying from the boutique....lv is the most replicated designer in the world so why would i trust flea-bay with such a special purchase....lol
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	__________________ *bags are like boyfriends.u should change, till u find one that fits.*

Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:18 AM	#3
mercx5 Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,050	Thanks for the heads up. I think we have to be more careful, don't be fooled by what the seller says.
mercx5 Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,050

Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:20 AM	#4
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	i have noticed that some of the speedies on e-bay said they were missing the keys...so that was a little strange....
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	__________________ *bags are like boyfriends.u should change, till u find one that fits.*

Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:24 AM	#6
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	yeah they seem easy to lose but like ten listings of the same bag had missing keys...it was odd but i guess that doesn't mean they're fake lol
bagladie112 Member Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,398	__________________ *bags are like boyfriends.u should change, till u find one that fits.*

Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:20 AM	#7
Pierito510 My precious Pup Joined: May 2008 Location: California Posts: 745	yeah post photos please...

Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:27 AM	#8
takoyoshi Member Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Honoulu, Hawaii Posts: 1,133	Why are you targeting items leaving japan? I have seen many items leaving japan as authentic. Please show us pictures and if anything they are without a doubt coming from China..
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Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:28 AM	#9
brahh Robyn Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Tennessee...as close to Heaven as you'll find! Posts: 2,826	Pictures please. I always get my bags authenticated here, these are things the LV Authenticators would pick up on, right? But, making bags that look "too real" is not good. I hate this. I read an article in Vogue talking about how these black market bags affect the economy. It's unreal!!! Lots of money!!! I hope LV goes after them, and quick!
	__________________ LV Collection: Amarante Vernis Alma MM, Trevi GM, Tivoli GM, Mono Galliera GM, Damier Speedy 35, Azur Speedy 35, Mono Speedy 35, Damier NF GM, Black Epi Alma, Fawn Epi Lg Noe with Black MC Bandeau, Mono Sarah Wallet Coach Collection: Too many gorgeous bags to list! A Lady Can't Have Too Many Bags!!!

Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:44 AM	#11
takoyoshi Member Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Honoulu, Hawaii Posts: 1,133	All i am saying is that it much more probable and likely that its coming from china or south east asia. I just wanted to know how he derived the yakusa accusations and some pictures?
	__________________ "Saving A Buyer Just $10.00 of Their Hard Earned Money By Flagging An Ebay Bid Makes My Day Support An End TO Fakes!!! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132186064882 My Blog, Check It Out http://luxurymart.blogspot.com/ Lets Tweet Guys :) http://twitter.com/LeLuxuryMart

Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:07 AM	#12
h1008 Member Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 102	I've looked at their auctions, too. The patina is an odd color and very very consistent between bags. The brass is also uniformly tarnished on all of the bags. What look like new bags have older heat stamps on them, and different stamps are used. Always an old lock of what appears to be the same age.

Jul 3rd, 2009, 04:52 AM	#13
Lee69 Sub-Forum Mod Joined: Jun 2006 Location: OZ Posts: 25,177	OP, please post pictures of this so called "super fake".
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Jul 3rd, 2009, 06:05 AM	#14
clarissa74 OP Sofa King Banned Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 102	The fake in question... Hello, I have just returned this fake junk to the seller for a full refund.... The pictures do not reveal the SMELL and FEEL of the object.... Stamping is wrong - wrong font, should be capital F for France (small f is early 80s - not possible in this condition). Chemicals used to tarnish brassware.... Real Lock.... but see the chemicals to age it! this lock number is only a newish number also!

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