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venetiakim · Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM

hmmm I don't want mine to patina...I'll have to be extra carefull

sulhali addict · Mar 27th, 2008, 03:59 AM

great thread ladies and i love the bread and toast analogy

mrbeanbin · Mar 27th, 2008, 06:43 AM

that' why i always buy damier lol

little*birdy · Mar 27th, 2008, 07:31 AM

This is why I hardly ever use my damier azur...I want to preserve its light colour and I'm scared it'll get dirty. The handles already have a couple of water marks so a bit unhappy about that.

nyc_besos · Mar 28th, 2008, 03:19 PM

i love my azur i will just have to pay to have it redone later on i guess i love it too much to have it stay at home and also i keep all my lv in bags and their box except for my papillon 26 bc my cousin broke box grrrrrrrrrrr

LouieLover56 · Mar 29th, 2008, 12:53 PM

Vachetta is French for "cowhide". It is a raw untreated high quality grain cowhide. Louis Vuitton only uses the best.

As with all light leathers, after use, the sun and weather effects and use turn the bag to a dark brown.

It happens with Hartmann bags too. Hartmann bags come with a light honey color and after a few years it turns to a dark brown with use.

Keeping it in the dust-bag will only slow down the patina. It's usually a mix of oxygen,sunlight,hand-oils, and he bags natural oils. It is kinda inevitable unless you keep it in a airtight room.

It just depends on the use of the bag. Sometimes a bag might take 6-7 years to patina, while others it would happen in a matter of months.

Hope that helped!

cookies_n_cream · Jun 19th, 2008, 04:32 AM

I love the vachetta colour!..is there something you can get done that will permanently or almost permanently keep it that way?

cutieupdate18 · Jun 19th, 2008, 08:13 AM

Very informative thread!

star_dust · Jul 22nd, 2008, 05:22 PM

Yes,very informative thread,thanks!I think Dior uses sometimes vachetta...

LxTxNx · Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by cookies_n_cream

I love the vachetta colour!..is there something you can get done that will permanently or almost permanently keep it that way?

Nope Vachetta is meant to darken with time.

Vachetta leather is used in the trimmings of luggage and handbags, popularized by Louis Vuitton. The leather is left untreated and is therefore susceptible to water and stains. Sunlight will cause the natural leather to darken in shade, called a patina.

ronjet · Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:57 PM

Love the natural process of the vachetta to have its honey tan color. I don't want it to be pale in color when it's new. a week or two is ok.

fayelee · Jul 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Million thanks for this thread, finally i know what is the different between patina and vachetta, yet can anyone tell me what is the pronunciation for "Patina" "Vachetta" and " Pochette Bosphore "as well

thats because english is not my parent language

thanks.

l7dude · Sep 28th, 2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by frozen7313

you really shouldn't EVER keep it in the box. that could cause the bag to crack from no moisture in the air. leather is a natural product.. it's after all, skin.. and it needs to breathe. think of dry cracked skin.. that's your bag if you keep it in a box. storing it in the dustbag is all you need to do. :)

also, patina is not just a leather handbag term. the term is used to describe anything that has aged. copper patinas into a aqua green color. zinc patinas to a rusty orange color. etc.

I learn something new everyday! LoVe all the info in this thread!

Caribeandiva · Oct 2nd, 2008, 08:52 PM

I'm new here and was wondering the same thing.

sira · Oct 6th, 2008, 09:09 PM

Love "bread" and "toast" description, thanks

Mar 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM	#46
venetiakim call me Princess Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Greece, Rethymno Posts: 1,784	Re: ummm, what is patina & what is vachetta hmmm I don't want mine to patina...I'll have to be extra carefull
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Mar 27th, 2008, 03:59 AM	#47
sulhali addict Member Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 752	Re: ummm, what is patina & what is vachetta great thread ladies and i love the bread and toast analogy
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Mar 27th, 2008, 06:43 AM	#48
mrbeanbin Member Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto,CA Posts: 317	Re: ummm, what is patina & what is vachetta that' why i always buy damier lol

Mar 27th, 2008, 07:31 AM	#49
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Mar 28th, 2008, 03:19 PM	#50
nyc_besos butterfly <3 Joined: Oct 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 716	Re: ummm, what is patina & what is vachetta i love my azur i will just have to pay to have it redone later on i guess i love it too much to have it stay at home and also i keep all my lv in bags and their box except for my papillon 26 bc my cousin broke box grrrrrrrrrrr
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Mar 29th, 2008, 12:53 PM	#51
LouieLover56 CompletelyObsessed Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny San Diego. Posts: 295	Re: ummm, what is patina & what is vachetta Vachetta is French for "cowhide". It is a raw untreated high quality grain cowhide. Louis Vuitton only uses the best. As with all light leathers, after use, the sun and weather effects and use turn the bag to a dark brown. It happens with Hartmann bags too. Hartmann bags come with a light honey color and after a few years it turns to a dark brown with use. Keeping it in the dust-bag will only slow down the patina. It's usually a mix of oxygen,sunlight,hand-oils, and he bags natural oils. It is kinda inevitable unless you keep it in a airtight room. It just depends on the use of the bag. Sometimes a bag might take 6-7 years to patina, while others it would happen in a matter of months. Hope that helped!
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Jun 19th, 2008, 04:32 AM	#52
cookies_n_cream Member Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 48	I love the vachetta colour!..is there something you can get done that will permanently or almost permanently keep it that way?

Jun 19th, 2008, 08:13 AM	#53
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Jul 22nd, 2008, 05:22 PM	#54
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Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:57 PM	#56
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Jul 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#57
fayelee Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,591	Million thanks for this thread, finally i know what is the different between patina and vachetta, yet can anyone tell me what is the pronunciation for "Patina" "Vachetta" and " Pochette Bosphore "as well thats because english is not my parent language thanks.

Oct 2nd, 2008, 08:52 PM	#59
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Oct 6th, 2008, 09:09 PM	#60
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