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Dec 22, 2011, 10:23pm   #451
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^ I know, IFFAH, I can see that you share my admiration for Mr Jean Louis Dumas, he was a true visionary and he transformed Hermes into what it is today. His loss is immeasurable.
Dec 23, 2011, 8:11am   #452
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Originally Posted by IFFAH View Post
^True, Valmont. Change is inevitable and with Hermes, it has changed a lot over the years and may change more in the future. I've been supporting Hermes for many years and many here would agree Hermes is no longer what it used to be in the last course of 20 years.

I'm in a family owned business and I can understand from their perspective. You have to change, you can't stick with same plans which may work before, may not work today. Otherwise, it spells disaster.

Given LMVH supreme in the luxury business and how Hermes has witness their fellow friends' business empire collapse, they should have foreseen this situation. If Mr Jean Louis Dumas was still alive, this wouldn't happen. I recalled him saying before to watch out for LVMH. Which apparently, not.
You make some excellent points about the responsibility the family has in this situation to think about the ramifications of their actions. And the Catch-22 that can come along with being a privately-held business. Although I am pro-free-market, pro-profit, pro-making all the money one possibly can, perhaps companies like this go public out of a mistaken idea that it is the best way to guarantee mega profits. One CAN make a good living for all involved by remaining a privately-held company. What one cannot do is dominate the market and make billions for everyone involved.
Dec 23, 2011, 8:52am   #453
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Same here. I will not purchase anything controlled by LVMH, which is like trying to stick to a strict diet, they control so much of the retail universe. If you go here, http://www.lvmh.com/the-group/lvmh-companies-and-brands, it's shocking to see just what all they own: perfumes/cosmetics, fashion houses (Donna Karan?!?), watches, and jewelry. What killed me is their ownership of Guerlain, Dior, and Givenchy. Now, I buy only vintage 'fumes from those makers.
Thanks for the link! I will be keeping this as a reference. And, if I happen to walk into a store that carries one of these brands and any SA asks if I'm interested in an item, I may just point out why I'm not. You never know where the word will spread....
Dec 23, 2011, 9:39am   #454
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Originally Posted by WingNut View Post
Thanks for the link! I will be keeping this as a reference. And, if I happen to walk into a store that carries one of these brands and any SA asks if I'm interested in an item, I may just point out why I'm not. You never know where the word will spread....
Crap. There goes Sephora.
Jun 3, 2012, 5:37am   #455
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Axel Dumas to succeed Patrick Thomas as CEO

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-705111.html
Jun 3, 2012, 8:22am   #456
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Hermès Family Back in Saddle

With LVMH Hovering, Luxury-Goods Maker Picks Axel Dumas to Succeed Patrick Thomas as CEO

PARIS—The founding family of French luxury-goods maker Hermès International RMS.FR -1.03% SCA Tuesday named a member of its sixth generation to become chief executive next year, cementing its grip as the threat lingers from larger rival LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton.

Hermès, the 175-year-old maker of Kelly bags, horse saddles and equestrian-themed silk scarves, said Axel Dumas, the 42-year-old chief operating officer, will take over from Chief Executive Patrick Thomas, who will be 65 in a few weeks. In a lengthy transition, Mr. Dumas, a descendant of founder Thierry Hermès, will become joint-CEO alongside Mr. Thomas at the end of May 2013 and will assume full managerial control at a later unspecified date.

The change in management returns the reins of the company to the family, which in 2010 had a backseat role before an unfolding drama with LVMH.

Two years ago, LVMH, the holding company for brands including Louis Vuitton, Fendi, Marc Jacobs and Donna Karan, stealthily began building up a 22% stake in Hermès, swallowing up the majority of the shares of Hermès that are in the hands of the general public.

Faced with what Mr. Thomas called "an intruder in our garden," the Hermès family closed ranks, but not before the market speculated that some family members would sell at the right price.

Although LVMH insisted that its intentions were friendly and it didn't plan a takeover, the Hermès family interpreted the stake buildup as an assault on its family unity—only a few months after the death of the family's patriarch, Jean-Louis Dumas.

Analysts questioned whether the members of the sixth generation would fill the gaps being vacated by the fifth generation. At the time of Mr. Dumas's death, there was no family succession plan in place, and little had been done to identify likely contenders.

The first nonfamily member to run Hermès, Mr. Thomas, who has been boss since 2006, guided the company through its standoff with LVMH. Yet the avuncular boss was seen by many family members as a surrogate member of the clan.

The younger Mr. Dumas emerged as the most likely successor to Mr. Thomas over the past year, since he was named chief operating officer. The dark-haired manager, who started his career as a banker in New York and China, entered the family business in 2003, working in various divisions, such as jewelry and leather goods.

Though LVMH remains a major shareholder, the Hermès family feels that it has won the battle for now. Last year, dozens of Hermès family members locked up shares representing just over half the capital in a new holding company, with the intent to keep them out of LVMH's hands for at least 20 years.

"I am glad a member of the Hermès family has been brought in to succeed me," Mr. Thomas said in a prepared statement Tuesday.

"In 15 days' time I will be 65 years old... for some time I have been preparing my succession," Mr. Thomas said at the company's annual shareholders meeting Tuesday.

Several of Mr. Dumas's cousins have joined the company or been promoted to senior positions since LVMH's arrival. Of the roughly 40 members of the sixth generation, about 10 work in the family business. Julie Guerrand quit her banking job with Rothschild last year to become the director of corporate development. Eric de Seynes became the president of the supervisory board.

They will now be joined by one more. Henri-Louis Bauer will replace his uncle, Bertrand Puech, on July 1 as the top manager of Emile Hermès SARL, the limited partnership that controls the company and which is open only to direct Hermès descendants.
Jun 3, 2012, 8:30am   #457
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^ that's a good news.
Jun 3, 2012, 12:05pm   #458
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Really? It's a goid news if it is true!!
Jun 4, 2012, 7:12am   #459
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Jun 4, 2012, 9:09am   #460
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Oh it's a good news to Hermes
Jun 4, 2012, 9:34am   #461
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Thanks Audreylita!
Jun 4, 2012, 10:33am   #462
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for the article, Audreylita.

To get things started, here is a picture of Mr Axel Dumas, the new future CEO of Hermes that we'd need to remember for a long long time.

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In the meantime, I think we all have to give credits to Mr Patrick Thomas for despite being a non-member of Hermes family and only an employee, he has done an excellent job to maintain Hermes as what it is today, protecting the interests of Hermes family. This despite all the frustrations about customer service, inventory problems, policy changes, not able to get any Hermes birkins from the Hermes boutique till now, etc.
I hope Hermes family will remember his loyalty and dedication.

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*A little background on Mr Axel Dumas.

In addition to what being mentioned in the article, Mr Axel Dumas started his internship with Hermes during his teens. He then chose a banking career after graduating because he wants to learn more about the corporate world, business and to pursue his interests in banking and finance.

Eventually, spurred on by the late Mr Jean Louis-Dumas, he decided to join Hermes family business starting at a low position before working his way up to be where he is today. He chose to learn the various business models of the company together with all of its aspects and traditions as he wanted to know more about Hermes.
Hence, deciding to work in various departments instead of solely focusing on the money and sense. Today, he firmly values the meaning of tradition.
Jul 17, 2012, 10:46pm   #463
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I did my little part and purchased stock in Hermes some time back. But it has dropped SO much in the past few days, does anyone know what's going on???
Sep 6, 2012, 9:50am   #464
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Does anyone have access to the rest of this article? I swear I'm ready to dump all my Hermes stock, it's doing SO poorly. What's up with that!


September 4, 2012
Hermès, LVMH Dispute Going to Court
By JOELLE DIDERICH
WWD Issue 09/05/2012

PARIS — Let the hostilities resume.
Hermès International and LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton said Tuesday they were heading to court over their ongoing dispute...
Sep 6, 2012, 9:55am   #465
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