Hermes throughout the ages

hermesgroupie · Sep 9th, 2006, 03:44 PM

Since so many questions have been popping up recently regarding vintage Hermes items. I've compiled a few tidbits regarding markings and labels of vintage Hermes.

Hermes labels throughout the years. Please scroll down the page to find the Hermes listings:
http://www.vintagefashionguild.org/l...=H&mode=search

Hermes stamps:
This stamp appeared on bags approximately before 1959 (please don't quote me on this as I've encountered conflicting reports as to the exact year)

This stamp appeared after the previous label was retired and was used until approximately 1970:

The current stamp (Please note this is natural stamp and appears on some leathers such as chamonix, vache natural, and in this case peau porc lisse. It is usually done to match the hardware):

H zipperstop (First appeared in 2001 and not found in all bags):

Hermes zippers:
From a bag purchased in 1960:

From bag made in 1979:

From bag made in 1992:

Current year:

jag · Sep 9th, 2006, 04:43 PM

This is an excellent reference thread!

Baggaholic · Sep 9th, 2006, 05:03 PM

Man, I love you!

Thanks,.. I really needed to know abou tzippers because they are always appearing on eBay and I'm always guessing myself on the authenticity.

Kellybag · Sep 9th, 2006, 05:45 PM

Like I said on the other thread...we all love HG...great info! ^^

Thank you.

dianagrace · Sep 9th, 2006, 05:51 PM

HG, you are the best. You know so much. Thank you for sharing this information with us.

temo · Sep 9th, 2006, 07:55 PM

Great info as always HG. Thanks for sharing.
Do you know anything about a "Newey" zipper in a vintage Bolide bag?
Apparently "Newey Bros Ltd" existed in Birmingham England until 1934.(Don't know if they made zippers)
I have been trying to research this and have sent emails to England. (The English are sooo good at archives, so maybe one day I will hear something). In the meantime, any info would be much appreciated!

hermesgroupie · Sep 9th, 2006, 08:36 PM

^^^^Temo as far as I've known they've used Eclair. The YKK zipper above took me by surprise. I've also seen riri on the smaller items used currently. If you look at the picture below, it is a picture of the prototype that Emile Hermes brought back to France. If you enlarge the picture, the writing on the book indicates that it is an Eclair zipper. Is it possible the zipper on the Bolide was replaced?

temo · Sep 9th, 2006, 08:49 PM

Anything's possible. The Zipper looks very very old however. Gold in color (brass I suppose) Seems to be a mystery.
I wish I could get this bag to an Hermes boutique. Nearest one is 5 hours away, so one day. . .
In the meantime . . . I'll just keep on searching and researching . . .

gina_b · Sep 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM

HG, what a great thread! I am constantly amazed at how much Hermes knowledge you've amassed. Thank you so much!

orchids · Sep 10th, 2006, 12:45 AM

This is wonderful and very helpful. Thanks HG!

chanelvgirl · Sep 10th, 2006, 12:49 AM

You are a walking encyclopedia of Hermes information. You're awesome. Thanks for all these info

amkur · Sep 10th, 2006, 01:19 AM

Great info! Thank you HG!

Ms. Twilly · Sep 10th, 2006, 01:35 AM

HG - Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! My zipper matches the picture from 1992 and I have the single rings on the handle...

hermesgroupie · Sep 10th, 2006, 02:48 AM

More pics:

Zipper pull
Bag made in 1959:

Kelly rings
Bag made in 1992:

Bag made in 2006 (the double ring appeared around 2000-2001):

Variations in clasps
Bag made in 1983:

Bag made in 2006:

Hardware stamps
Bag made in 1960's:

Bag made in 2006:

S'Mom · Sep 10th, 2006, 02:48 AM

Pic of logo on hardware circa 1950's:

Sep 9th, 2006, 03:44 PM	#1
hermesgroupie Orange crush Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Le Monde Hermes Posts: 8,850	Hermes throughout the ages Since so many questions have been popping up recently regarding vintage Hermes items. I've compiled a few tidbits regarding markings and labels of vintage Hermes. Hermes labels throughout the years. Please scroll down the page to find the Hermes listings: http://www.vintagefashionguild.org/l...=H&mode=search Hermes stamps: This stamp appeared on bags approximately before 1959 (please don't quote me on this as I've encountered conflicting reports as to the exact year) This stamp appeared after the previous label was retired and was used until approximately 1970: The current stamp (Please note this is natural stamp and appears on some leathers such as chamonix, vache natural, and in this case peau porc lisse. It is usually done to match the hardware): H zipperstop (First appeared in 2001 and not found in all bags): Hermes zippers: From a bag purchased in 1960: From bag made in 1979: From bag made in 1992: Current year:

Sep 9th, 2006, 04:43 PM	#2
jag Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 18,320	Re: Hermes throughout the ages This is an excellent reference thread!

Sep 9th, 2006, 05:03 PM	#3
Baggaholic J'aime Hermes!!! Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Closet is under construction! New closet coming soon! Posts: 5,281	Re: Hermes throughout the ages Man, I love you! Thanks,.. I really needed to know abou tzippers because they are always appearing on eBay and I'm always guessing myself on the authenticity. __________________ Looking for a White Plume With Potiron Stitching! Let me know if you see one on the Hermes finds thread! Thanks!

Sep 9th, 2006, 05:45 PM	#4
Kellybag Hermezzy Mod Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 13,304	Re: Hermes throughout the ages Like I said on the other thread...we all love HG...great info! ^^ Thank you.

Sep 9th, 2006, 05:51 PM	#5
dianagrace Member Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,786	Re: Hermes throughout the ages HG, you are the best. You know so much. Thank you for sharing this information with us.

Sep 9th, 2006, 07:55 PM	#6
temo Member Joined: Jul 2006 Location: British Columbia Posts: 914	Re: Hermes throughout the ages Great info as always HG. Thanks for sharing. Do you know anything about a "Newey" zipper in a vintage Bolide bag? Apparently "Newey Bros Ltd" existed in Birmingham England until 1934.(Don't know if they made zippers) I have been trying to research this and have sent emails to England. (The English are sooo good at archives, so maybe one day I will hear something). In the meantime, any info would be much appreciated!

Sep 9th, 2006, 08:36 PM	#7
hermesgroupie Orange crush Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Le Monde Hermes Posts: 8,850	Re: Hermes throughout the ages ^^^^Temo as far as I've known they've used Eclair. The YKK zipper above took me by surprise. I've also seen riri on the smaller items used currently. If you look at the picture below, it is a picture of the prototype that Emile Hermes brought back to France. If you enlarge the picture, the writing on the book indicates that it is an Eclair zipper. Is it possible the zipper on the Bolide was replaced?

Sep 9th, 2006, 08:49 PM	#8
temo Member Joined: Jul 2006 Location: British Columbia Posts: 914	Re: Hermes throughout the ages Anything's possible. The Zipper looks very very old however. Gold in color (brass I suppose) Seems to be a mystery. I wish I could get this bag to an Hermes boutique. Nearest one is 5 hours away, so one day. . . In the meantime . . . I'll just keep on searching and researching . . .

Sep 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#9
gina_b Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,622	Re: Hermes throughout the ages HG, what a great thread! I am constantly amazed at how much Hermes knowledge you've amassed. Thank you so much!

Sep 10th, 2006, 12:45 AM	#10
orchids Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4,590	Re: Hermes throughout the ages This is wonderful and very helpful. Thanks HG!

Sep 10th, 2006, 12:49 AM	#11
chanelvgirl Member Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sunny CA Posts: 2,848	Re: Hermes throughout the ages You are a walking encyclopedia of Hermes information. You're awesome. Thanks for all these info

Sep 10th, 2006, 01:19 AM	#12
amkur Hermes 24/7 Joined: Mar 2006 Location: in the hills Posts: 2,698	Re: Hermes throughout the ages Great info! Thank you HG! __________________ http://www.hcpmedicalspa.com http://www.laser15.com

Sep 10th, 2006, 01:35 AM	#13
Ms. Twilly Orangina Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,132	Re: Hermes throughout the ages HG - Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! My zipper matches the picture from 1992 and I have the single rings on the handle...

Sep 10th, 2006, 02:48 AM	#14
hermesgroupie Orange crush Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Le Monde Hermes Posts: 8,850	Re: Hermes throughout the ages More pics: Zipper pull Bag made in 1959: Kelly rings Bag made in 1992: Bag made in 2006 (the double ring appeared around 2000-2001): Variations in clasps Bag made in 1983: Bag made in 2006: Hardware stamps Bag made in 1960's: Bag made in 2006: Bag made in 2006: