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Sybaryte · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:13 PM

Faf - Have you ever had a Clara? I had one and there was plenty of room for my stuff so a bag with slightly less capacity wouldn't be an issue.

fafnir · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:42 PM

Syb, is the Clara around 13" x 12" as well?

Sybaryte · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:43 PM

Yes...and 3" depth.

missangelina · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:49 PM

Sally, I think Jen had one of the aubergine wallets and was not fond of the leather. But that's in a wallet - it's probably different for the bag, like grape is. Von Maur didn't have anything in aubergine.

eta - oh wait! But I think dmc posted pics of her sample aubergine burke somewhere? Is that right?

RealMcCoy · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:54 PM

Syb, the usable depth on the Franklin is not "slightly less" than the Clara. IMO, it is radically less. If you take the 3" of Clara and take away two layers of leather (say 1/8"?) you would have a usable space of 2 7/8 deep. On the Franklin, you would need to calculate 4 layers out plus some space lost to stitching and gusseting. I would estimate the usable depth to be 2 1/2". BUT, it is not one space. The 2 1/2" is divided into 3 sections. The middle section is just a slide in sandwich between the two outer bag sections. So, if we ignore the center section, and figure just 2 sections sharing the 2 1/2" of air space... well, that isn't going to live like the 3" clearance of the Clara.

I think Franklin will be a fine bag for someone who totes papers, envelopes, thin paperbacks or magazines, wallet and such things that are fairely flat. But, it could pose a problem with items more than 1" deep. Also, from what I see in the photos, the belt passing through the rivets is decorative. I don't see buckles to open it up to let the bottom fan out.

RealMcCoy · Oct 15th, 2009, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by fafnir

Syb, is the Clara around 13" x 12" as well?

The Clara is 14" x 12" x 3".

fafnir · Oct 15th, 2009, 09:28 PM

Sometimes it just comes down to function vs looks, I guess. I carry stuff like books and water bottles, so yeah.

sallyca · Oct 15th, 2009, 10:23 PM

Thought someone might've tried to talk me into or out of the Burke??
If I got it - it would be my first purple bag. Scary.

enga4 · Oct 15th, 2009, 10:42 PM

Not really if you have the VCP Pomp...

*Do it! Purple is such an awesome color to have in a purse!!!

fafnir · Oct 15th, 2009, 10:49 PM

I think purple is a tricky color to have in a bag. Eggplant, yes-- it's dark enough and muted enough to almost be a neutral. But I would probably tire of a purple bag pretty quickly.

sallyca · Oct 15th, 2009, 10:49 PM

You're right Enga - I forgot about the pomp. I was thinking of big bags though. Colour in a bigger bag is a bit scarier.

enga4 · Oct 15th, 2009, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by fafnir

I think purple is a tricky color to have in a bag. Eggplant, yes-- it's dark enough and muted enough to almost be a neutral. But I would probably tire of a purple bag pretty quickly.

fafnir · Oct 15th, 2009, 11:53 PM

Aw, enga, I just meant for me. Go rock the purple!

Sybaryte · Oct 16th, 2009, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by RealMcCoy

Syb, the usable depth on the Franklin is not "slightly less" than the Clara. IMO, it is radically less.

Sorry...didn't know you'd seen it IRL.

sallyca · Oct 16th, 2009, 12:22 AM

I love Nikki's grape Newman. That purple looks so deep and rich and rugged.

And the aubergine is nice in a different way. Did you see the Burke on youtube? The colour looked very strange.

Oct 15th, 2009, 08:13 PM	#16
Sybaryte Sofa King Banned Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,911	Faf - Have you ever had a Clara? I had one and there was plenty of room for my stuff so a bag with slightly less capacity wouldn't be an issue.
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Oct 15th, 2009, 08:42 PM	#17
fafnir OP Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Posts: 4,032	Syb, is the Clara around 13" x 12" as well?
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Oct 15th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#18
Sybaryte Sofa King Banned Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,911	Yes...and 3" depth.
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Oct 15th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#22
fafnir OP Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Posts: 4,032	Sometimes it just comes down to function vs looks, I guess. I carry stuff like books and water bottles, so yeah.
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Oct 15th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#23
sallyca Member Joined: Aug 2008 Location: BC Posts: 1,807	Thought someone might've tried to talk me into or out of the Burke?? If I got it - it would be my first purple bag. Scary.
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Oct 15th, 2009, 08:49 PM	#19
missangelina roar Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,011	Sally, I think Jen had one of the aubergine wallets and was not fond of the leather. But that's in a wallet - it's probably different for the bag, like grape is. Von Maur didn't have anything in aubergine. eta - oh wait! But I think dmc posted pics of her sample aubergine burke somewhere? Is that right?

Oct 15th, 2009, 08:54 PM	#20
RealMcCoy Just one more word! Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Emerald Coast Florida Posts: 1,932	Syb, the usable depth on the Franklin is not "slightly less" than the Clara. IMO, it is radically less. If you take the 3" of Clara and take away two layers of leather (say 1/8"?) you would have a usable space of 2 7/8 deep. On the Franklin, you would need to calculate 4 layers out plus some space lost to stitching and gusseting. I would estimate the usable depth to be 2 1/2". BUT, it is not one space. The 2 1/2" is divided into 3 sections. The middle section is just a slide in sandwich between the two outer bag sections. So, if we ignore the center section, and figure just 2 sections sharing the 2 1/2" of air space... well, that isn't going to live like the 3" clearance of the Clara. I think Franklin will be a fine bag for someone who totes papers, envelopes, thin paperbacks or magazines, wallet and such things that are fairely flat. But, it could pose a problem with items more than 1" deep. Also, from what I see in the photos, the belt passing through the rivets is decorative. I don't see buckles to open it up to let the bottom fan out.

Oct 15th, 2009, 10:42 PM	#24
enga4 Shine On Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Chi-city Posts: 2,787	Not really if you have the VCP Pomp... *Do it! Purple is such an awesome color to have in a purse!!!
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Oct 15th, 2009, 10:49 PM	#25
fafnir OP Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Posts: 4,032	I think purple is a tricky color to have in a bag. Eggplant, yes-- it's dark enough and muted enough to almost be a neutral. But I would probably tire of a purple bag pretty quickly.
	__________________ Tentative Fall 09 shopping list: HH: Black Kin Belt, Yam Shine Trophy bag. Swedish Hasbeen high-heeled jodhpur boots. ISO: Moss, Olive, Plum, Aubergine, Blueberry, Yam, Moonbeam Celinas "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -- Tom Waits

Oct 15th, 2009, 11:53 PM	#28
fafnir OP Member Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Posts: 4,032	Aw, enga, I just meant for me. Go rock the purple!
	__________________ Tentative Fall 09 shopping list: HH: Black Kin Belt, Yam Shine Trophy bag. Swedish Hasbeen high-heeled jodhpur boots. ISO: Moss, Olive, Plum, Aubergine, Blueberry, Yam, Moonbeam Celinas "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." -- Tom Waits

Oct 16th, 2009, 12:22 AM	#30
sallyca Member Joined: Aug 2008 Location: BC Posts: 1,807	I love Nikki's grape Newman. That purple looks so deep and rich and rugged. And the aubergine is nice in a different way. Did you see the Burke on youtube? The colour looked very strange.
	__________________ Hoping for: Anthracite Havana, Beatrice in any colour, Lido wallet, Pilot in TCP or ICP, Black Tharpe and the elusive and oft-sought Emerald Goat Corcovado.

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